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Oliver Peters
January 2, 2012 at 9:02 pm[Craig Seeman] “So all this would indicate the disadvantage to MC Mac and Final Cut “and friends” on Snow Leopard.”
Well, really only in the sense of the size of the file to download. In the case of Media Composer, Avid has been way more responsive in the last 2-3 years in updating the app with patches in between paid upgrades than has Apple.
When you work in the Avid world, there are several “helper” utilities (EDL Manger, FilmScribe, etc.) that should be in sync with the matching MC version. The uninstall/reinstall routine takes care of these as well. Avid leaves all “supporting files” in place. This means you don’t have to worry about third-party plug-ins, media or projects. They are left untouched by the update. So the process is deathorize the app, run the installer, run the new installer and re-authorize. It’s really very simple and painless.
Yes, an App Store update of FCP X with Lion is easier and faster, but only true when you are talking about a single machine. The same MC installer file can be used for an unlimited number of machines, so only one download is required.
Oliver
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Craig Seeman
January 2, 2012 at 9:19 pm[Oliver Peters] “The same MC installer file can be used for an unlimited number of machines, so only one download is required.”
I’m under the impression you can also get away with one FCPX update download and copy it (on Snow Leopard for example).
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Oliver Peters
January 2, 2012 at 9:43 pm[Craig Seeman] “I’m under the impression you can also get away with one FCPX update download and copy it (on Snow Leopard for example).”
Yes, I’ve done that. You aren’t moving an installer around, though. You are copying the app itself and moving it around. I’m not exactly sure what happens though when/if you exceed the 5 authorized machines on your Apple ID account (used to download the app). I think it will run, but may throw up some flags when the next update rolls around. With MC, the installer is independent of the authorization or dongle (optional), so it doesn’t matter. Apple has a separate method or account process for larger customer sites (20+ seats).
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Tony West
January 2, 2012 at 9:52 pmYes no doubt, you can get into a droid cheaper so when you factor in cost I certainly see that.
When I look at my crew on Hockey for example, everybody making our big union money and can buy what
they want. The Iphone is all over the crew. (and any other sports crew I’m on)I guess I have been hanging around with too many people with too many means that it colored my view : )
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Craig Seeman
January 2, 2012 at 9:53 pm[Oliver Peters] “I’m not exactly sure what happens though when/if you exceed the 5 authorized machines on your Apple ID account”
There’s a facility level license one can get (20 seats or more). Of course if all the computers are yours, I don’t think they have a limit (anymore?).
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Walter Soyka
January 2, 2012 at 10:28 pm[Craig Seeman] “I’d disagree at least about the potential. They can develop fewer features and release more frequently rather than more features with longer development and QA cycles common in the old distribution model. There’s no reason to have 18-24 month cycle. They can have can have less ambitious upgrades in a 6-9 month cycle for example.”
Ok, I’ll concede the point — but it’s a policy decision, not a purely technical one.
Adobe’s current release cycle, with physical distribution, is only 12 months. Autodesk has been on yearly releases for some time, plus extensions for subscription customers during the year.
Avid’s release cycle (again, with physical distribution) is now less than 12 months, and as you’ve correctly pointed out, they have far fewer resources at their disposal than Apple. (Interestingly, if I recall correctly, my MC5.5 installation disc may have been burned, not pressed.)
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Shawn Miller
January 2, 2012 at 10:38 pm“Apple’s iPhone 4 still top-selling smartphone at AT&T, Verizon…”
It looks like this story only talks about iPhone sales from two carriers.
“When I look at my crew on Hockey for example, everybody making our big union money and can buy what
they want. The Iphone is all over the crew. (and any other sports crew I’m on)”Help me understand your point here, I thought it was (initially) that iPhones are more popular than all other smartphones (thus your comment that you’re “almost surprised when I see someone pull one out”). Or, are you really making the case that, of all smartphones over a certain dollar amount, iPhones are the most popular?
Thanks,
Shawn
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Walter Soyka
January 2, 2012 at 10:48 pm[tony west] “Yes no doubt, you can get into a droid cheaper so when you factor in cost I certainly see that. When I look at my crew on Hockey for example, everybody making our big union money and can buy what they want. The Iphone is all over the crew. (and any other sports crew I’m on) I guess I have been hanging around with too many people with too many means that it colored my view : )”
I chose an Android over an iPhone for its seamless integration with Google Apps for Business. I certainly could have bought an iPhone instead, but on feature set, it just wasn’t the right phone for me.
iPhone vs. Android is like Mac vs. PC, all over again: an elegant but closed ecosystem versus an open but chaotic one. There is no one universal right or wrong answer. They’ve got different strengths and different weaknesses.
As an aside, you can get an iPhone 4 on Verizon for $99 with a contract, and you can get a Droid RAZR for $299 with contract. I don’t think iPhone pricing is as much of a factor as it was.
Walter Soyka
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Craig Seeman
January 2, 2012 at 10:51 pm[Walter Soyka] “Ok, I’ll concede the point — but it’s a policy decision, not a purely technical one. “
It would be. That’s why I’m curious about when the big update following the one this quarter. That might reveal the pattern or at least the variance. I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s as early as 6 months
[Walter Soyka] “Avid’s release cycle (again, with physical distribution) is now less than 12 months, and as you’ve correctly pointed out, they have far fewer resources at their disposal than Apple. (Interestingly, if I recall correctly, my MC5.5 installation disc may have been burned, not pressed.)”
Ah, the Primera Bravo with the intern in the back room who has to deliver 150,000 over the weekend.
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Walter Soyka
January 2, 2012 at 11:04 pm[Craig Seeman] “Ah, the Primera Bravo with the intern in the back room who has to deliver 150,000 over the weekend.”
Seems we’re always disagreeing lately. I assumed they gave the intern two Bravos!
In all seriousness, I imagine that they outsource physical production, and I’d be surprised if they were directly involved in the decision on how to master. Perhaps they’re doing drastically shorter runs in order to decrease inventory overhang — doing just-in-time production to get the short-turn benefits of ESD as well as the shelf-friendliness of physical distribution.
I’ll check the install disc when I’m back in the office tomorrow and let you know if it was burned or pressed.
Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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