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  • Carlitos

    January 19, 2006 at 8:29 pm

    If the guy tells you he can fly, Will you also accept it without any doubts?

    I’m asking you to try it by yourself.

    Believe YOUR EYES.

    C’mon, Try to run Avid without QuickTime

    If he’s rigth, You have nothing to loose, you’ll be able to use your Avid normally and you can reinstall QuickTime later if you need it.

    And I’ll be wrong.

    From the Avid site

    https://www.avid.com/products/xpressprohd/specs.asp#pc

    “Minimum PC System Specifications for Avid Xpress Pro

    Windows XP Professional with Service Pack 2
    QuickTime 7.0.3
    1 GB system memory minimum, 2 GB recommended for HD or high-stream count SD projects
    Dual or Single 2.4 GHz Xeon processor OR Pentium 4 1.6 GHz processor OR Pentium M 1.8 GHz processor (mobile configurations)
    Qualified graphics card (per model, as supported by system vendors)1
    Qualified IEEE-1394 FireWire port (integrated or add-in card2 ; Mojo is not supported on notebook systems with PCMCIA cards of any kind)
    40 GB or larger internal IDE drive3
    DVD-ROM or DVD+RW drive”

    They put QuickTime in second place of the minimum system requirements.

    Again, from the Avid site:

    https://www.avid.com/products/liquid/specs.asp

    In the LIQUID EDITION (Formerly Pinnacle) requirements , They don’t put QuickTime, not even as an optional requirement.

  • Carlitos

    January 19, 2006 at 9:10 pm

    From the Avid site

    https://www.avid.com/onlineSupport/browse.asp?productID=0&topicID=404&browse=

    Here You can download the Avid Codecs for PC.

    Wait! The Avid codecs are QuickTime based codecs, even for Windows! There is no “Video for windows”, DirectX or Windows Media codecs!

    Strange, isn’t it?

  • Les Kaye

    January 19, 2006 at 9:13 pm

    [Carl] “If the guy tells you he can fly, Will you also accept it without any doubts?”
    I know who Wes Plate is – I don’t know who the heck you are.

    [Carl] “I’m asking you to try it by yourself.”
    Be my guest – you seem to have the time.

    I however, don’t have the time to prove or disprove something I knew, and which has been reaffirmed by someone who knows far more than you or I. But if you happen to be right, well, then I’ve learned something, If both Wes Plate and I are right, then you’ve learned something.

  • Carlitos

    January 19, 2006 at 9:16 pm

    double checked with our experienced Post Manager, who confirmed that to his knowledge, Avid is NOT QT based, but does use QT on the Mac for display purposes.

    .- Well, apparently, and with all due respect, the guy does not have a clue about Avids.

    Here are the AVID codecs (FOR PC):

    https://www.avid.com/onlineSupport/browse.asp?productID=0&topicID=404&browse=

    As you can see, they are all pure breed Quickime codecs.

    No video for windows codecs at all. Nowhere.

  • Carlitos

    January 19, 2006 at 9:23 pm

    I however, don’t have the time to prove or disprove something I knew, and which has been reaffirmed by someone who knows far more than you or I

    .- How do you know that?

    Do you know me?

  • Steven L. gotz

    January 19, 2006 at 9:32 pm

    Well, if Matrox wants another cheerleader, I am willing to accept a long term loan of a Matrox Axio for editing HDV. I don’t think it would hurt my standing as a “Premiere Pro” guy. But in the meantime, I will spend my time being a cheerleader for Cineform instead.

  • Carlitos

    January 19, 2006 at 10:02 pm

    [Carl] “I’m asking you to try it by yourself.”
    Be my guest – you seem to have the time.

    .- Well, in the 10+ years I’ve used, installed and serviced Avid systems , both Mac and PC (For a living) I had the time to test a Lot.

    Anyway, a QuickTime uninstall doesn’t take much time.

    [Carl] “If the guy tells you he can fly, Will you also accept it without any doubts?”
    I know who Wes Plate is – I don’t know who the heck you are.”

    .- Well, I don’t know who the heck is Wes Plate, have no idea.

    And , with all due respect. I don’t care (nothing against him, I don’t even know him, simply I don’t care)

    I do not take anybody’s word as the absolute truth, not even mine.

    I believe in FACTS.

    That’s a very healthy habit.

    The fact is that you can’t run Avid without QuickTime and anybody can try this.

    These are a FACTS:

    https://www.avid.com/onlineSupport/supportcontent.asp?browse=&productID=0&contentID=3555
    https://www.avid.com/onlineSupport/supportcontent.asp?browse=&productID=0&contentID=7952

    The AVID codecs are QuickTime codecs.

    Good luck

  • Carlitos

    January 19, 2006 at 11:11 pm

    [Carl] “I’m asking you to try it by yourself.”
    Be my guest – you seem to have the time.

    .- I don’t need to do this testing, I’ve known this for a long time.

    BTW, I get paid for doing tests, troubleshooting, Repairs, Etc, so normally I have the time to get to know such things.

  • Les Kaye

    January 20, 2006 at 3:03 am

    [Carl] “.- Well, in the 10+ years I’ve used, installed and serviced Avid systems , both Mac and PC (For a living) I had the time to test a Lot.”

    [Carl] “Well, I don’t know who the heck is Wes Plate, have no idea.”

    Perhaps this will give you an idea on why my part in this thread is over:
    https://www.automaticduck.com/about_us/

  • Creig Bryan

    January 20, 2006 at 3:15 am

    Nice and easy does it, every time.

    Keep Smiling

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