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why would anyone want to use FCPX (SERIOUS discussion – no bashing)
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[Michael Paul] “PLEASE what is so great about the magnetic time line? What is that mentality I have to accept- the mentality and mindset of doing WHAT exactly?”
I’m like you. I like most of the organizational features, but the MT – meh! I do like the vertical compactness of it for source audio tracks. That’s great because if you sync’ed 8 channels of double-system audio, you can open it or close it as needed. That’s cool.
Others here like the fact that you can drag clips around and everything connected follows and re-arranges in place without clip collisions. I find that to often be a ‘two steps forward, one step back’ situation. That’s because the clips are often set to overlap (like b-roll shots) and therefore they are connected to the clip just before the one I’m moving, not the correct one. The easiest solution to that is to always change the connecting point to the middle of the clip (a nice feature request) before you move things around. Naturally that’s an extra step, but that way the connecting clips move with the intended clip.
Unfortunately sometimes these clips re-arrange in vertical hierarchy – a connected clip that was partially under another connecting clip in the old location now rests above one in the new position. You have to be mindful of this and make sure the stacking order ends up where you want it to. That’s much more predictable in a track-based timeline, although then you may have clip collisions to contend with. So even though a lot of folks here rail against “track tetris” in a track-based system, to me it seems like you are playing the game just as much with X, only in a different way.
[Michael Paul] “where I can select EVERYTHING from the right of my play head or everything from the left of my play head. That way I can just move it all away. Do I seriously need to draw a rectangle each time?”
Yes, even though Apple had it in FCP “classic”, they chose not to implement it in X (yet). Premiere Pro does have it.
One of the ways I’m found to tame X a bit is to map all the panel configuration changes to the function keys and then the timeline views to the shift-function keys. That way the interface can be changed quite quickly to having windows open or not – or to have the chicklet view of the timeline or a large waveform view.
https://digitalfilms.wordpress.com/2016/02/20/final-cut-pro-x-keyboard-tips/
– Oliver
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Unfortunately for Premiere, “looks like” and works like” are two entirely different things. 😛
– RK
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[Oliver Peters] “Yes, even though Apple had it in FCP “classic”, they chose not to implement it in X (yet).”
Nor will they. Ever. Because making an extra TOOL for that would be nonsense.
Have you ever simply considered option-W? It’s the magnetic timeline, remember?
– RK
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Here is the thing: I am starting to like the basic idea behind connected clips. In a nutshell: Everything stays together- it is connected.
Now here are some problems I have ran into and you might know a great way to deal with those I simply hadn’t thought of yet:
Music/Sound is connected to a clip in the primer. That clip in the primer has to go- I delete it and BAM my music/sound is gone as well while I would want it to stay – solution? Maybe tell it to be connected to a gap I am about to create and just stay where it is but I don’t know how – maybe it’s super easy but I just woke up because I had to type down this message and I have no Final Cut in front of me.Same goes for this example: I was doing an interview- I had plenty of broll shots above my primer. Now the Interview had to get shortened / some clips and parts from the interview (which is the main time line / the primer) had to go. That way all my connected clips also got deleted while I would have just wanted them to stay where they were. Maybe I grouped them and put them into a second…nope that way they would still be connected to the primer and get deleted anyways so what’s the solution for this? Like a total noob and finding no solution for letting brolls be where they should be / let them remain at the same position I just copy and pasted them at the very end of my time line and put them back again after I had removed/trimmed and what not my main interview. This seems like a terrible workflow and I know this is NOT the way to do it but I didn’t know any better and still don’t know a solution for this. Thanks a lot. Seriously this keeps me awake at night or wakes me up again but I will go back to bed now.
Thanks a lot everyone for your great input! I really want to become a FCPX editor and I am serious about this. I see it as a challenge I want to master.
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[Michael Paul] “I also FAIL at selecting stuff. I love features like that arrow you had in Final Cut 7 (or Avid or what not) where I can select EVERYTHING from the right of my play head or everything from the left of my play head. That way I can just move it all away. Do I seriously need to draw a rectangle each time?”
Thats just the joy of the MT that most of the time u don’t have to select forward/bw….
Maybe if you could describe what you want to achieve some powerusers (not me) can point you towards the new way of doing things…
For zooming, scrolling, selecting I really like the trackpad.. . .
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[Michael Paul] “Music/Sound is connected to a clip in the primer. That clip in the primer has to go- I delete it and BAM my music/sound is gone as well while I would want it to stay – solution? “
Both problems, same solution: shift delete: gap clip replaces the original clip, connected clips stay, above or below the ‘primer’, probably not what you want, but sometimes useful.
What you want (maybe?): command-alt-delete: clip disappears, connected clips stay, above or below the ‘primer’. Now you probably have to move the connected clips….[Michael Paul] “same goes for this example: I was doing an interview- I had plenty of broll shots above my primer. Now the Interview had to get shortened / some clips and parts from the interview (which is the main time line / the primer) had to go. That way all my connected clips also got deleted while I would have just wanted them to stay where they were. Maybe I grouped them and put them into a second…nope that way they would still be connected to the primer and get deleted anyways so what’s the solution for this?”
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You can use the timeline index to select everything on your right or left from the playhead.
https://mathieughekiere.wordpress.com
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[Mathieu Ghekiere] “You can use the timeline index to select everything on your right or left from the playhead.”
If you need to SELECT everything, yes. Otherwise, again: option-W at the beginning of whatever you want to MOVE, done.
– RK
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But then… why even use that (most of the time)? If you want to insert something, simply do it. Remember? It’s the magnetic timeline. 😉 A “double-arrow” tool would be both redundant and superfluous. Which is why it obviously will never happen. I’m very surprised to hear anyone that knows their way around X (or claims to) even actually ask for it. Weird.
– RK
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“You can use the timeline index to select everything on your right or left from the playhead.”
How exactly would I do this? So I have the timeline index opened but what do I do then? Totally unreleated but in some tutorials I saw people had a button NEXT to timeline index. I only have the timeline index button at the bottom left- any idea what it could have been? Also thanks for that advice.
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