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  • Oliver Peters

    June 24, 2017 at 1:34 am

    [andy patterson] “I know Apple will not do it because Apple likes to confuse people with their mythical Apple Magic”

    There is a value to aesthetics to some folks ☺ But in all honesty, every Mac I’ve owned has outlasted any of the PCs I’ve owned. So I’m willing to pay a bit more. Yet, in reality, if you buy the equivalent name brand PC, you will actually pay less for the Apple product. Building a a DIY machine is fine, but obviously you are forgetting the value of your own labor.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Andy Patterson

    June 24, 2017 at 3:47 am

    [Oliver Peters] “Building a a DIY machine is fine, but obviously you are forgetting the value of your own labor.”

    I like building my own computer just like some people like building choppers. As far as picking out the parts I usually just get the least expensive RAM module that will work with my system. For the card reader I just got the least expensive. It is all good. A lot of the computer parts and brands are actually made by the same vendor.

    I have been using that same case for over 8 years. I never buy all the parts all at once either so it is really super inexpensive for me.

  • Greg Janza

    June 24, 2017 at 4:00 pm

    I think the days of an expandable and upgradeable mac are long gone. And if in fact, the new macs are going to have ram hard wired into the board then it’s pretty clear that they will expect people to fully upgrade their systems regularly.

    One of the many benefits of getting off the Apple train is that I no longer fret about my edit system specs being phased out for a newer and better Apple release.

    I Hate Television. I Hate It As Much As Peanuts. But I Can’t Stop Eating Peanuts.
    – Orson Welles

  • Steve Connor

    June 26, 2017 at 5:53 pm

    I’m VERY happy on the Mac Train, I’ve never minded paying the Mac tax in return for the reliability and longevity Macs offer.

    A few grand every few years on replacing a whole Mac is well worth it.

  • Tim Wilson

    June 26, 2017 at 11:37 pm

    [Steve Connor] “A few grand every few years on replacing a whole Mac is well worth it.”

    While I’m no longer on the Mac train, I absolutely never understood this part of the objection. I bought gazillions of Macs over the years, and other than adding extra RAM and bigger hard drives to every NEW computer I bought (rather than pay Apple to ship me the max’d out configurations), using this upgradeability as a substitute for buying new computers never crossed my mind. I WANTED the new stuff, because of all the subsystems that aren’t easily upgradeable.

    One way I know that I’m pretty close to the COW mainstream on this is the lament that Apple is taking too long to deliver new computers. I remember when most folks here were buying new computers every year, then every other year. Who the hell cares about being able to modularly upgrade a 5 year old spine? Forget modules, man. Give me something meaningfully new, give it to me a lot more often, and take my money.

    I remember years ago being flabbergasted by how much better each new generation of computers was than the one I’d just bought. I remember repeating Dave Barry’s joke that they should have a dumpster outside the door of the computer store that you could dump the computer into on your way to the car. No point in even bringing it home because it was already obsolete. ????

    Well, of course, not anymore. While it’s certainly true that Apple’s inability to make a compelling case for some of you to leave behind an EIGHT year old computer is a testament to the soundness of that 2009 model, it also speaks to Apple’s inability to create unambiguous improvements anymore. It seems like every new release of everything (except maybe the iMac) comes with plenty of prominent reasons to say, “Whoops, another missed opportunity.”

    That used to definitely NOT be the case. It’s easy to see in the archives for our first decade here at the COW — every new computer from Apple used to be an automatic purchase, even when they were coming a lot more quickly.

    So that’s my dream scenario. Not modules. Unambiguously compelling new models a lot more often.

    Of course, this thread subject contains part of the reason why I haven’t been on the Apple train for years. They’ve got a long way to go just to catch up with well-established technologies and form factors. Mac folks may not care, or may argue vigorously that they don’t want 4K touchscreens or wider aspect ratios, or brighter screens, or any of the many other things that represent the state of the art. I do.

    Apple used to. It’s why I built my business on Macs for over 20 years. It’s also now why I can’t ever imagine using one again. I’ll be as happy as anyone else if they surprise me by just catching up, much less pulling ahead again….but I’ll be surprised to be surprised, too. ????

  • Greg Janza

    June 27, 2017 at 3:07 am

    [Tim Wilson] ” I remember when most folks here were buying new computers every year, then every other year. “

    I too remember because I’ve been making use of the Creative Cow site almost since it’s inception (although I’ll confess for the first 10 years I was only a lurker.) And one of the fascinating things about the creative cow evolution has been the continually changing attitudes towards the manufacturers of the equipment that we all make use of professionally.

    The issues of how to forecast where the industry is headed and which companies will be leading the charge into the future are what make this site so dynamic and relevant. And so it’s pretty much anyone’s guess where Apple and the mothership are headed.

    I Hate Television. I Hate It As Much As Peanuts. But I Can’t Stop Eating Peanuts.
    – Orson Welles

  • Andy Patterson

    June 27, 2017 at 3:29 am

    [Tim Wilson] ” Mac folks may not care, or may argue vigorously that they don’t want 4K touchscreens or wider aspect ratios, or brighter screens, or any of the many other things that represent the state of the art. I do.”

    I find it odd that people hype up the release of new Apple products. Some people even thank Apple. Why? Do people thank Lenovo, Asus, MSI or Dell every time they add new hardware technology?

    [Tim Wilson] “Apple used to. It’s why I built my business on Macs for over 20 years. It’s also now why I can’t ever imagine using one again. I’ll be as happy as anyone else if they surprise me by just catching up, much less pulling ahead again….but I’ll be surprised to be surprised, too. ????”

    Apple computers work they just are not innovative. OS X is still using a Windows 95 paradigm.

  • Steve Connor

    June 27, 2017 at 7:09 am

    [andy patterson] “Apple computers work they just are not innovative. OS X is still using a Windows 95 paradigm.”

    No Andy, there’s no innovation in Macs (sigh)

  • Gregor Queck

    June 27, 2017 at 9:29 am
  • Tom Sefton

    June 27, 2017 at 1:01 pm

    Red………obsolescence obsolete!

    Co-owner at Pollen Studio
    http://www.pollenstudio.co.uk

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