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  • Andrew Richards

    June 22, 2012 at 3:49 pm

    [tony west] “He went to put his old fcp on the MBPr and he noticed that there is no cd on that computer.

    I guess he can find an adapter for that.

    There is also no ethernet input.”

    A couple things he should have taken note of before spending thousands of dollars on it, perhaps?

    Best,
    Andy

  • Andrew Richards

    June 22, 2012 at 3:51 pm

    [Walter Soyka] “Which leads us right back to the question about whether Apple cares about pros. The features that Apple have chosen to exclude (or chosen not to include, if you prefer) may not be important in common use in the general case — but they are important and are frequently used among video professionals.”

    I regret that I have but one “Like” to give to this post!

    Best,
    Andy

  • Walter Soyka

    June 22, 2012 at 3:53 pm

    [Andrew Richards] “It’s a trend for all storage. HDD performance peaked years ago. They are still the density kings today, but they are already a performance bottleneck, especially when they are operating alone.”

    I haven’t seen anyone replace the HDDs in their RAID enclosures for SSDs yet, specifically because they are so much more expensive for way less storage.

    SSDs are getting cheaper, but they won’t supplant mechanical drives for media storage until they’re more cost effective per unit storage.

    Walter Soyka
    Principal & Designer at Keen Live
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
    RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
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  • Walter Soyka

    June 22, 2012 at 4:00 pm

    [Andrew Richards] “I regret that I have but one “Like” to give to this post!”

    Thank you! I do like those little +1s, but the comment means more.

    Walter Soyka
    Principal & Designer at Keen Live
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
    RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
    Creative Cow Forum Host: Live & Stage Events

  • Walter Soyka

    June 22, 2012 at 4:05 pm

    [Andrew Richards] “A couple things [no optical, no Ethernet] he should have taken note of before spending thousands of dollars on it, perhaps?”

    And just wait until he finds about the missing Kensington slot…

    Of course we know this, because we read and analyze every little bit of information that comes along.

    However, I can understand why someone would assume that these things, which have been standard on Mac laptops for well more than a decade, might not think to look specifically for an Ethernet port.

    I suspect that for many, many MBPr purchasers will have this same problem unless the sales force specifically points out the missing features. Could be good for TB accessory sales, too.

    Walter Soyka
    Principal & Designer at Keen Live
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
    RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
    Creative Cow Forum Host: Live & Stage Events

  • Craig Seeman

    June 22, 2012 at 4:08 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “It would be nice if they also had a USB3 to Ethernet adaptor in addition to Thunderbolt as usb3 can be “hubbed” and is fast enough for Gigabit.”

    And yet one of the things I think Apple is headed towards is blowing past Gigabit (affordably) to 10G. Apple tends to “skip” incremental improvements for bigger ones. Of course that leaves interim voids.

    Certainly it would be good if a third party had a USB3 to Gigabit Ethernet adaptor. That may happen. After all USB3 is even newer to Apple’s lineup than Thunderbolt.

    Apple does have USB2 to Ethernet, motivated by the MacBookAir but that’s obviously not Gigabit.

  • Tony West

    June 22, 2012 at 4:13 pm

    [Andrew Richards] “A couple things he should have taken note of before spending thousands of dollars on it, perhaps?”

    Oh don’t get me wrong, he is VERY happy with his new computer. Those things are minor to him. He will cut mainly with X and put legend in with an adapter.

  • Craig Seeman

    June 22, 2012 at 4:25 pm

    [Walter Soyka] “Which leads us right back to the question about whether Apple cares about pros. The features that Apple have chosen to exclude (or chosen not to include, if you prefer) may not be important in common use in the general case — but they are important and are frequently used among video professionals.”

    Imply pro (vs consumer) and I say commodity. Commodity is NOT consumer. Two Thunderbolt ports on a $2200-$2800+ laptop is not “consumer.”

    I think you can include “Pros” when it comes to what is commonly used. They’re increasing higher end connectivity by using a single versatile port (Thunderbolt). Granted SOME TIMES we may be constrained by two Thunderbolt ports but even amongst “pros” it’s a major improvement.

    Whether you like it or not Apple is looking to the future and it is to the detriment to SOME for the present but NOT for MOST . . . even “Pros”

    Two Thunderbolt ports give me many more options Professionally than an Ethernet or Firewire or eSata or Express port. At any given time, the Thunderbolt ports can give me any of the above. If I need them all then I’ll be able to get the Belkin dock which has Thunderbolt pass through.

    Most of the time, most of the people including most pros can have most of their connectivity with Thunderbolt ports. As time goes on we’ll be seeing some combination of more Thunderbolt ports and more pass through devices. Next year we’ll have the MacPro replacement (and yet another round of MacBookPro updates).

    Personally, only when the ability to do something is completely dropped would I be concerned. If less frequently used connectivity is done through an adaptor, it’s no less “pro.”

  • Andrew Richards

    June 22, 2012 at 4:31 pm

    [Walter Soyka] “SSDs are getting cheaper, but they won’t supplant mechanical drives for media storage until they’re more cost effective per unit storage.”

    We’re quickly approaching that crossover point:


    via Tom’s Hardware

    Best,
    Andy

  • Andrew Richards

    June 22, 2012 at 4:34 pm

    [tony west] “He will cut mainly with X and put legend in with an adapter.”

    He can always just share another Mac’s ODD.

    Best,
    Andy

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