Activity › Forums › Creative Community Conversations › Who is Going To Switch?
-
Herb Sevush
October 26, 2012 at 10:45 pm[Jeremy Garchow] “FCPX allows you to see every piece of timecode in multicam.”
This has nothing to do with being in multicam mode, this has to do with reading the elements on the timeline. Your saying that if I have some video from a multicam on a video track in the timeline, and below it, or above it or wherever they put it I have 3 different tracks of audio, and the timeline marker is at rest there is a window that gives the current source timecode of each of those elements at that point similar to the timecode window in Legacy?
and –
Where is the timecode window in PPro located?
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
—————————
nothin’ attached to nothin’
“Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf -
Charlie Austin
October 26, 2012 at 10:54 pm[Herb Sevush] “if I have some video from a multicam on a video track in the timeline, and below it, or above it or wherever they put it I have 3 different tracks of audio, and the timeline marker is at rest there is a window that gives the current source timecode of each of those elements at that point similar to the timecode window in Legacy?”
Yes, you can do it, but it’s not all piled in an overlay like in 7. Assuming you have clip skimming turned on, simply park the playhead wherever, and skim to the playhead position. The main TC display shows the source TC of whatever clip you’re skimming over. Not all on the screen at once, but really simple.
————————————————————-
~”It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools.”~
-
Jeremy Garchow
October 26, 2012 at 10:56 pm[Herb Sevush] “This has nothing to do with being in multicam mode,”
That’s why I was confused. You said you always were in “multicam mode”. From previous post:
[Herb Sevush] “And since I’m almost always in multicam mode,”
OK, maybe you said almost always in mulitcam mode. 😉
[Herb Sevush] “Your saying that if I have some video from a multicam on a video track in the timeline, and below it, or above it or wherever they put it I have 3 different tracks of audio, and the timeline marker is at rest there is a window that gives the current source timecode of each of those elements at that point similar to the timecode window in Legacy?”
No unfortunately, unless all those clips were in the same multiclip.
[Herb Sevush] “Where is the timecode window in PPro located?”
Info panel:
-
Herb Sevush
October 27, 2012 at 2:24 amJeremy,
I’m almost always cutting multicam shows, but that doesn’t mean I’m always cutting with multiclips to do it, there’s a mix and I need to be able to use whatever mode or tool I want without penalty.
Thanks for your help, but it seems like I’m going to have to clear some time and go thru this myself to see if either can do what I need – I was told on the PPro forum that CS6 lacked a time code window. Obviously not the case. Now if either can also restore sync simply and quickly, then it appears I will have some real options.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
—————————
nothin’ attached to nothin’
“Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf -
Jeremy Garchow
October 27, 2012 at 3:17 am[Herb Sevush] “I’m almost always cutting multicam shows, but that doesn’t mean I’m always cutting with multiclips to do it, there’s a mix and I need to be able to use whatever mode or tool I want without penalty.”
Yes. I misunderstood. Apologies.
Fcpx does not have an FCP Legend like tc up, and those of us that use sync markers and tc miss it.
[Herb Sevush] “Now if either can also restore sync simply and quickly, then it appears I will have some real options.”
If I remember correctly, you like to work delinked.
Pr assumes if you unlink a/v, you no longer care about sync, and stops tracking sync between a/v sync.
If you work linked, then you get out of sync markers and have nearly the same tools as legend to get things back in sync.
Adobe listens pretty well, I’m sure if you submit a request, they will listen to you.
Jeremy
-
Jeremy Garchow
October 28, 2012 at 3:22 pm[Jeremy Garchow] “So, I agree in that I don’t think the pace will keep up forever, but they still have a lot of work to do to keep building on their potential future successes. I, personally, don’t feel Apple has forgotten the likes of the MacPro community quite yet, especially when you consider the myriad of other professionals outside of the video industry that could use a MacPro replacement.”
I don’t know if anyone pays attention to these ramblings anymore, but I have just a few more thoughts on this as it pertains to the professional community.
FCPX is going to require a really fast space heater machine here pretty soon.
With 10.0.6 the much improved “Share” function is now a truly background process.
You can start exporting/transcoding almost anything out the application, whether it’s a Project, a clip, an Event, a range, whatever.
This means I can be crazy productive, editing while exporting, editing while making tc burns, whatever.
Here’s the crazy part. I can start exporting a Project, and the BG render starts going.
I can CONTINUE WORKING ON THAT SAME PROJECT, add things, delete things, rearrange it, and reexport. The original export doesn’t stop or get screwed up, it stays the same as when I started it. Sorry for the caps, I just want to make sure this is understood.
The second export is the result of when I started that export.
I can adda third export after further rearranging. I stopped at three, but it seems you throw as many versions as you want at it.
I have been testing all this on a shitty old laptop from home. It absolutely cripples my machine. Testing on an older MacPro, it’s better, but still crippling.
Really, to make the process sing, I’m going to need all the fancy hyperthreaded sizzle cores it can muster.
Apple has a plan here, it’s not going to be targeted at consumers, as they simply won’t care about this capability.
Two pennies,
Jeremy
-
Herb Sevush
October 28, 2012 at 4:55 pm[Jeremy Garchow] “I don’t know if anyone pays attention to these ramblings anymore, “
I hang on every word.
[Jeremy Garchow] “Really, to make the process sing, I’m going to need all the fancy hyperthreaded sizzle cores it can muster. Apple has a plan here, it’s not going to be targeted at consumers, as they simply won’t care about this capability.”
I hope your right.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
—————————
nothin’ attached to nothin’
“Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf -
Craig Seeman
October 28, 2012 at 5:36 pm[Jeremy Garchow] “Apple has a plan here, it’s not going to be targeted at consumers, as they simply won’t care about this capability.”
Jeremy, isn’t this all geared towards the wedding videographer who has to crank out the same day edit?
Pros don’t have time crushing deadlines anymore because webesodes have replaced weekly episodic television. Phantom support is really just so the skateboarders can shoot their falls at 1000fps and upload to YouTube.I’d guess that we may see a 16 core beast with a mean GPU amongst Apple’s offerings next year but people will complain about the “Apple tax” even though it won’t cost any more than a comparable HP Z820.
-
Jeremy Garchow
October 29, 2012 at 3:53 pm[Craig Seeman] “Jeremy, isn’t this all geared towards the wedding videographer who has to crank out the same day edit?
Pros don’t have time crushing deadlines anymore because webesodes have replaced weekly episodic television. Phantom support is really just so the skateboarders can shoot their falls at 1000fps and upload to YouTube.”Skateboarding has never looked better at 16bit RGB Raw.
Seriously though, the capability to be able to crank out different versions while still working on the same timeline is incredible, meaning, send a version to export, then keep working on that exact same timeline and then immediately send a new version and have the exports refelct the state of the timeline when you sent it to export. I know I am an absolute nut when I say I like FCPX, my pro status has been downgraded, I am just an Apple fanboi and they now only care about the consumer, but as a professional, I find these features to be truly helpful and useful. Sure there’s some Reel ID weirdness that we have talked about in other threads, there’s some weird interface mechanics and timecode displays that still need to be sorted out, but the amount of effort and rethink that has gone in to this program is becoming more and more apparent with every release.
Oh well, I guess it doesn’t matter because they didn’t make it for Pros.
[Craig Seeman] “I’d guess that we may see a 16 core beast with a mean GPU amongst Apple’s offerings next year but people will complain about the “Apple tax” even though it won’t cost any more than a comparable HP Z820.”
I have no idea what is going to happen, and yes, no matter what people will complain.
It’s like the people who grabbed the new iPhone, proceeded to scrap their keys in long deliberate strokes across the back and said, “What the f*ck? My iPhone isn’t indestructible?” I would ask them to go do that to their car and report their findings. An iPhone is a smaller hunk of tin, but it’s still a hunk of tin.
I do know that if you use FCPX new Share menu to it’s full potential and capability, you will need a very fast computer in a hunk of carbon fiber.
Jeremy
-
Herb Sevush
October 29, 2012 at 4:03 pm[Craig Seeman] ” but people will complain about the “Apple tax” even though it won’t cost any more than a comparable HP Z820.”
Does the not cost any more include all the thunderbolt cables, pcie to thunderbolt converters and external pcie and drive enclosures that your vision of a new MacPro will require?
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
—————————
nothin’ attached to nothin’
“Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf
Reply to this Discussion! Login or Sign Up
