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Where we are: No need for debate
Walter Soyka replied 14 years, 6 months ago 15 Members · 37 Replies
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Rob Brandreth-gibbs
October 20, 2011 at 12:49 amAgreed. But the writing is still on the wall for now.
Cheers,
RBGRob Brandreth-Gibbs
Bravo Zulu Productions
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Rafael Amador
October 20, 2011 at 2:09 am[Kevin Patrick] “Apparently the point of my post was not obvious. I attempted to make a humorous comment relating to Ben’s statement that he will most likely spend his time discussing FCP X in the FCP X Techniques forum, as opposed to this one. The humorous part was the reference to one of the Godfather movies. (forgot which one)
Honestly, I’m sorry if you didn’t find it humorous. I certainly meant to disrespect to Ben either. But, I can see how someone could take an attempt (especially a poor one) at humor to be disrespectful. Again, sorry.
Although, I’m not sure I understand your comment about whether I work for Apple. Not that I’m offended. I just don’t quite understand it.”
Kevin,
Sorry If I didn’t catch it, may be because quite often when FCPX critics try to put some humor we are call “haters”.
Again, forget my late night commentary.
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Jeremy Garchow
October 20, 2011 at 2:47 am[Rafael Amador] “Sorry If I didn’t catch it, may be because quite often when FCPX critics try to put some humor we are call “haters”.”
It was me that said haters, and I said it in jest. It is clear that humor is not working on any level.
I was joking. I really was. I’m sorry everyone. I love you all. Can we all go back to being friends?
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Rafael Amador
October 20, 2011 at 3:05 am[Jeremy Garchow] “I was joking. I really was. I’m sorry everyone. I love you all. Can we all go back to being friends?”
I told you that when we will drink that beer we won’t talk about NLEs.
We love you too Jeremy 🙂
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Herb Sevush
October 20, 2011 at 3:31 pmAs opposed to the last 8″ floppy you bought, the last 5 1/4″ floppy, the last 3″ floppy, the last Zip Disk … yes I guess it’s only tape formats that get obsoleted, it will never happen to P2 cards.
What a world you live in.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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nothin’ attached to nothin’
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Jim Giberti
October 20, 2011 at 8:44 pm[Herb Sevush] “As opposed to the last 8″ floppy you bought, the last 5 1/4″ floppy, the last 3” floppy, the last Zip Disk … yes I guess it’s only tape formats that get obsoleted, it will never happen to P2 cards. “
I could buy a really nice car with the purchase value of the cases of MO, Zips, Syquest etc.
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Michael Gissing
October 20, 2011 at 10:10 pmFive years ago I asked the tech people in the Australian Broadcasting Commission when we would be able to deliver files, not HDCam tapes. I was told five years but we still have to deliver HDCam and digi beta master tapes for local and international broadcasters and distributors, not files.
Much as Apple may abhor tape and much as I prefer to deliver files, I do not have that luxury, so when a software developer says tape is dead and acolytes take up the chant, it doesn’t make market place realities any less real.
If Apple want to leverage the broadcast world, then being stuck in the fulcrum is uncomfortable so excuse me for not cheering Apple’s stance.
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Rob Brandreth-gibbs
October 21, 2011 at 7:59 amYou have to admit it’s a pretty audacious thing for Apple to just ignore our client’s needs and mandatory requirements in Apple’s pursuit of what they believe we must use.
RBG
Rob Brandreth-Gibbs
Bravo Zulu Productions
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Bill Davis
October 22, 2011 at 10:50 pm[Walter Soyka] “I’m dinging Apple for failing to offer the foundation for that ecosystem. FCPX’s deficiencies wouldn’t be so bad if third-party developers were better able to work on them.
Again, I’ll point to Adobe’s recent 64-bit rewrite of After Effects. They treated third-party developers as partners and worked with them in advance of the release of CS5 to ensure that they could have products ready when CS5 launched. The fact that major developers heard about changes to FCPX’s architecture at the same time that users did is incomprehensible.”
Walter,
I know nothing about Apple’s (or Adobe’s) internal decision making. And I also understand that working with “selected partners” is vastly different than giving everyone the keys to the kingdom, ala “open source” initiatives.
However I read this earlier today and thought it you might find it interesting.
It’s essentially an Ars Technica piece on how sometimes, “openness” isn’t always the best and clearest path to excellence.
It’s not necessarily on point regarding this particular discussion. But it did expand my thinking on my general view of circumstances where “openness” sometimes has unintended and very negative consequences.
Steve Jobs appears to have understood this well in advance of most people, and there seems to have been a significant method behind much of his “walled garden” madness.
Interesting stuff.
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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