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Walter Biscardi
April 2, 2009 at 3:15 pm[Dave Johnson] “I’m sure you’re right, Walter … for me personally, I guess it’s just that I’m getting to be an old dog now and my current circumstance doesn’t allow much time for new tricks so I often have to just stick with what has always worked well for me.”
I’m sure once you use and realize just how easy it is, you’ll wonder why you never used it in the first place. I have a new editor working with me now since January. He spent about 6 hours practicing on it and is already taking all of his projects into Color. It’s pretty much as easy as the 3 Way CC, but obviously much better quality.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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Paul Kondo
April 2, 2009 at 3:19 pmTo clarify, I don’t have a monitor that will allow me to CC that way it needs to.
Yeah, I’m waiting for my AE Apprentice book to show up so I can start from the ground up. But your point is well taken. One of the things I will try sooner than later is some time remapping to see if AE’s is more intuitive to me than FCP’s. I’m not saying FCP’s is bad, I just struggle with it.
And then I’m going to try to pull a key in both. I’m curious with a general understanding of both, which one can give me a better key within the confines of time and basic skills. Obviously, the more time I spend with both, the better it will be.
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Dave Johnson
April 2, 2009 at 3:22 pmPoint taken, Walter, and I do appreciate the tip since I’ve gathered from your other posts that you give very good advice. I will take a closer look at color … as soon as I stop myself from spending so much of my little downtime perusing forums and the like. ;~)
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Bret Williams
April 2, 2009 at 5:17 pmIt has a lot of windows, but AE is really not more than photoshop with keyframes. Like any software there are a lot of other other elements, but it essentially is a simple app. You can make your brain hurt with nested comps after nested comps, but that’s just a deep project. Kinda like having folders inside folders in the layers pallette of ps.
Now Motion I’ve used quite a bit. But I still don’t get it. It’s just completely foreign. I feel like I have to learn it every time I open it. It seems to eat up screen real estate too.
If Adobe could somehow just get people to use Premiere they’d pretty much own production. Every time I play with it it seems just as capable as FCP, and in many ways more advanced. It integrates with PS and AE beautifully. They may have just missed the boat or the stigma of what it once was is too strong.
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Ed Dooley
April 2, 2009 at 6:11 pmThe Chris and Trish Meyer book, Creating Motion Graphics with After Effects, is a valuable resource too. I’ve used AE since 1993 when it was COSA, but I still learned a lot from that book. The Peachpit press book is good too.
Ed[Paul Kondo] “Yeah, I’m waiting for my AE Apprentice book to show up so I can start from the ground up.”
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Walter Biscardi
April 2, 2009 at 6:14 pm[Ed Dooley] ” I’ve used AE since 1993 when it was COSA, but I still learned a lot from that book.”
You too?! And wasn’t it coSA or something weird like that? Do you even remember what the heck that stood for? I don’t.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
Biscardi Creative Media
HD and SD Production for Broadcast and Independent Productions.STOP STARING AND START GRADING WITH APPLE COLOR Apple Color Training DVD available now!
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Ed Dooley
April 2, 2009 at 6:37 pmWiki didn’t have the name, but this guy in Atlanata seems to know all about it (and it *was* the Company of Science and Arts).
Edhttps://positivelyatlantaga.com/2008/02/08/cosa-for-celebration/
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Dave Johnson
April 2, 2009 at 7:14 pmI actually have the full boxed software of “CoSA After Effects 2.0.1” sitting on a shelf in my office right now … manuals and all just as if it were purchased yesterday. lol More partial info about the history of AE:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/After_Effects
[Bret Williams] “If Adobe could somehow just get people to use Premiere they’d pretty much own production. Every time I play with it it seems just as capable as FCP, and in many ways more advanced. It integrates with PS and AE beautifully. They may have just missed the boat or the stigma of what it once was is too strong.”
Premiere is in fact just as capable since it is more mature software in many ways, but Adobe definitely missed the boat and can only try their best at the losing game of catch-up now.
While this isn’t in any way a criticism of FCP (I use both FCP & Premiere regularly and like both), in my humble opinion, Premiere lost the market share battle with FCP, not so much because of either of the applications themselves, but it boiled down to two things Apple has consistently done far better than any of it’s competition … understand the importance of and take advantage of good timing and strong marketing.
Timing in that FCP took the world by storm and never looked back by coming on the scene at just the right time … when the market was dominated by very expensive and more hardware-dependent NLEs for which a lot of people were anxious for a viable alternative.
Marketing in that Apple is obviously very strong in this area and that, in combination with good timing, was just unbeatable. Our culture has changed drastically in this regard … it’s not about building a better mousetrap anymore … in fact, as anyone who has ever seen the TupperWare cups of hurricane Katrina wind selling like hotcakes on eBay surely knows, you don’t even have to actually have a real product anymore … strong marketing in itself is what wins.
My apologies to anyone I may have offended with my opinions and for veering so far off topic … just couldn’t help it when I saw the mentions of the CoSA days and glanced over at that crusty yellowing box on my bookshelf. ;~)
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