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Andre Van berlo
March 14, 2016 at 8:36 pmThanks for posting this Bill,
In the video I’ve found a couple of things that have sped up things considerably in my “workflow”. I am not an editor by trade so these kinds of videos really give an insight in how things can be done. I am the leading “actor” in all my shots and I make quite a few mistakes. How he sorts the good from the bad works very good for me and helps a lot.
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Robin S. kurz
March 16, 2016 at 10:09 am[Oliver Peters] “I would suggest however, that X is not as suited to working this way than other NLEs. […] No tabbing or stacking features for sequences, for example.”
Ironically… from the exact same show: https://bit.ly/1nNGS80
And of course: https://bit.ly/1YZksOR
So I guess the question is: why would I want to work that way instead? Because if others are doing it, somehow it’s the best way to do it? For me, being “less suited” is clearly a very very GOOD thing.
– RK
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Oliver Peters
March 16, 2016 at 11:59 am[Robin S. Kurz] “So I guess the question is: why would I want to work that way instead? Because if others are doing it, somehow it’s the best way to do it? For me, being “less suited” is clearly a very very GOOD thing.
“In some cases, simply preference. However, in a more concrete example, let’s say you cut a :60 commercial and from that you want to edit a :30 cut down version. In doing that you want to be able to easily compare the two versions. Stacking is a better way than X’s forward-backward timeline navigation approach. Even FCP7’s tabbed timeline, where a tab could be pulled off as a separate window, was better.
Oliver
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Steve Connor
March 16, 2016 at 1:10 pm[Oliver Peters] “In doing that you want to be able to easily compare the two versions. Stacking is a better way than X’s forward-backward timeline navigation approach. Even FCP7’s tabbed timeline, where a tab could be pulled off as a separate window, was better.
“Just playing back the project with the skimmer in the browser would be good
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Robin S. kurz
March 16, 2016 at 1:38 pm[Oliver Peters] “However, in a more concrete example, let’s say you cut a :60 commercial and from that you want to edit a :30 cut down version.”
Do it all the time. I just don’t see how the imho excessive visual clutter that all that brings with it aids me in that. Nor how that (due to the clutter) is any better or more helpful than e.g. simply copy pasting the 60 to the 30 project or making a compound of the 60 for quick and easy reference, which are two things that I would do. Stacking or “Pancaking” is great… if you have no other useful options and are accustomed to an overladen GUI to begin with. 😀
– RK
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Oliver Peters
March 16, 2016 at 4:01 pm[Steve Connor] “Just playing back the project with the skimmer in the browser would be good”
Not for me. In the Adobe and FCP7 approach you could drag-and-drop between them to make edits. It’s very, very fast to work that way. As far as just previewing the project, there’s a capability that was lost when 10.0.9 changed to 10.1. In the old version you could see a filmstrip of the whole sequence in the browser, which was quite useful. Now you just get a thumbnail.
– Oliver
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Oliver Peters
March 16, 2016 at 4:06 pm[Robin S. Kurz] “simply copy pasting the 60 to the 30 project or making a compound of the 60 for quick and easy reference, which are two things that I would do”
In the eye of the beholder, I suppose. The compound approach seems like a lot of wasted effort. Plus compound clips can cause problems in roundtrips. And you don’t see the clips based on timeline icons and clips separation on the timeline itself, only by skimming.
– Oliver
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Robin S. kurz
March 16, 2016 at 4:08 pmThat’s what “Break Apart Clip Items” is for, yes.
– RK
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Oliver Peters
March 16, 2016 at 4:10 pm[Robin S. Kurz] “That’s what “Break Apart Clip Items” is for, yes.”
Sure, but again, that’s an extra step I don’t need with the other approach. Pros and cons either way.
– Oliver
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Robin S. kurz
March 16, 2016 at 4:21 pm[Oliver Peters] “Sure, but again, that’s an extra step I don’t need with the other approach.”
Two, maybe three shortcuts (i.e. about 10 sec. of “work”) to avoid the continuous visual clutter. For me, worth it, yes.
– RK
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