What is taking so long?

[David Dobson]

I am thinking that more usable RAM would be a good thing – but so far I haven’t heard enough people say so to risk it. It SHOULD work in 32 bit and the program SHOULD be able to able the memory accordingly. Ha!

[David Doty]

I do this for all drives.

[Mike Chapman]

That’s only partially correct.

We have the same performance issues with Premiere, both CS3 and -4, with drives that are only half full. CS4 is better at regaining control after a switch in and out, but CS3 could take several minutes. BOTH apps take many minutes to open a project with a couple of hundred clips. Since Premiere doesn’t use proxy files, it seems to have to “walk” every file on a disk before it will open the project fully. This is the downside of editing native files; I’d rather edit on proxy files and take the (subjective) hit on image quality – which disappears at final output anyway.

It’s also a dirty little secret that many shared-storage vendors intentionally introduce fragmentation when writing to disk – that way you get linear performance as the volume fills up. Otherwise performance would degrade as the disks filled linearly from the inside of the platter to the outside. That’s why you normally wouldn’t defragment a media volume.

Mike Chapman

[Tim Kolb]

[David Dobson] ”
I am thinking that more usable RAM would be a good thing”

XP only ‘sees’ 2.5 GB anyway…3.5 with a hack that isn’t recommended by any sources outside of some individual users…

You’ve got 4…2 on each side…you’re maxed as far as XP goes. Vista will see more and CS4 is the first rev that will see that extra RAM under the new OS…

TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions,

[Tim Kolb]

[David Dobson] “I also wonder if the TRANSCRIBE feature adds load time to files – all that meta data has to be considered…then again it’s just text.”

Interesting point. I don’t think enough of us have worked with large projects with extensive metadata fields on large quantities of clips to know the ultimate impact of that yet…

TimK,
Director, Consultant
Kolb Productions,

[Dave Messinger]

What exactly is happening when the drives are churning away while loading a PP3 HD project ?

It takes PP3 15 minutes to load a 1080i HD project I have with 2 1hr imported m2v video files. The video files are IPBb mpeg-2 MP@H-14, 25 mbits/s, 16×9, 1440×1080, 24 bits/pixel, 29.97 fps.

I have a dual core x7900 extreme 2.8 lintel chip on a pc with 4 gigs mem with XP, and the drives are defragged and are 50% full. PP3 on drive1, project and video files on drive2. 4 gigs mem.

I can start Avid Liquid with PP3 running (after the project finishes loading (15 minutes), and Liquid loads it’s project with the same video files in less than a minute.

Is this slow project startup normal for M2V files and a 1080i project – or are there some things I can do to speed it up.

Dave Messinger
https://vfwTech.com

[Dave Messinger]

Well – I have defragged my drives again – and it is still taking 15 minutes to load up a project with 2 1-hr hd clips – that’s basically all that is in the project – along with a couple of minute clips that I have sent to the timeline from source window. It gets to about 95% in project loader – then stays there 15 minutes – then I can edit.

Something just has to be wrong here.

I think I detailed out my machine, etc in prior post – so all I can say is BUMP

Dave Messinger
https://vfwTech.com