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  • Simon Ubsdell

    May 24, 2016 at 2:04 pm

    I agree that the potential for metadata analysis is very interesting, but that’s probably getting over-ambitious at this point.

    The first challenge is to convince enough people that there’s value in metadata in the first place 😉

    Simon Ubsdell
    tokyo productions
    hawaiki

  • Steve Connor

    May 24, 2016 at 2:58 pm

    [Simon Ubsdell] “And yes, I completely agree about the value of serendipity to the editing process – Serendipity is a truly genius editor and we do well to trust him/her.

    In my experience, editing serendipity comes to your aid more effectively when you haven’t over-compartmentalised your material and/or your workflow. I have watched too many editors organise their material to death and lose all the random benefits of a looser organisational structure.

    In a sense, my argument for better search is also an argument for more relaxed, less heavy-handed organisation.

    I could not agree more,

  • Bill Davis

    May 24, 2016 at 3:59 pm

    [Oliver Peters] “In other words, finding something you didn’t know you needed, because you spotted something in the way to going for what you originally wanted. It was the thing close by but not the original target. The equivalent of shuttling through footage and finding the perfect shot in that process.”

    Kinda like switching a filter from “Hide Rejects” or “Favorites” back to “Show ALL” where you can skim the entirety of your source material without any filtering whatsoever?

    ; )

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  • Bill Davis

    May 24, 2016 at 4:06 pm

    Tom, could you email me a copy of:

    160524NabiscoShowreelV2MOStexted2997unapproveduncolorcorrectedsubmasterwithoutCEOnotesforexecreviewdonotdistribute.

    Thanks.

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  • Simon Ubsdell

    May 24, 2016 at 4:14 pm

    I get that this is meant to be satirical, but it’s how a lot of the major film companies are now working, along with their distribution suppliers, for the simple reason that it works.

    Some things that make a lot of sense can take time getting used to, as I’m sure I don’t need to tell you 😉

    Simon Ubsdell
    tokyo productions
    hawaiki

  • Bill Davis

    May 24, 2016 at 4:15 pm

    [Steve Connor] “I could not agree more,”

    Me too. Generally.

    But it’s kinda dependent on the type of work I’m doing at the moment. If I’m cutting something factual – what’s critical is the shortest way find the next fact. I marked B-Roll for the Johnson interview – system show me just THAT now.

    If you’re doing more artful work. “I could really use a big visual here to heighten the emotional impact of what was just said.” Then absolutely, I want the ability to mine wide and deep to find something ideal.

    I could also be working from a fixed pool of assets – JUST the stuff I’ve shot for this program. Or I could be looking in a much larger pool of stock footage or the entire historical archive of a TV station, for example.

    I suspect most of us do many different types of searches all the time.

    FWIW.

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  • Simon Ubsdell

    May 24, 2016 at 4:16 pm
  • Bill Davis

    May 24, 2016 at 4:34 pm

    Yes, I was being a bit silly. (long work-slog human decompression underway for few hours)

    But this post is seriously useful. Thank you. Simon.

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  • Simon Ubsdell

    May 24, 2016 at 7:36 pm

    Actually what’s interesting is how extremely useful and descriptive your joke example is. I can read that filename and know exactly what the content is even though I know nothing about the job, and you could come back to it in ten years time and still know what was meant.

    Simplicity is the most powerful tool of all.

    Simon Ubsdell
    tokyo productions
    hawaiki

  • Bill Davis

    May 25, 2016 at 12:09 am

    Well, except the part of the file name that ran off the screen on my phone…
    That’s going to be a bit hard to understand.

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