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What do you think of this rough cut of my short film so far?
Ryan Elder replied 7 years, 4 months ago 4 Members · 15 Replies
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Ryan Elder
November 27, 2018 at 10:10 pmOkay thank you very much for the specific advice!
I will see if I can recommend to the producer/writer to go a different direction than the found footage, which he already had scripted.
This is my first time attempting this kind of project, since I have done fiction mostly before, and didn’t know that it was normal for documentaries to go out and get additional footage during the editing.
However, the music composer is already working on the music so should I perhaps tell him to put it on hold if I need more footage?
The thing that worries is that I am worried my camera, will not match the DP’s camera. With found footage, it is okay to not have a match cause it’s found footage, but I’m worried whatever camera I use, will not match, look and color wise. Could this be a problem?
It is also winter where I live now, which will not match the outdoor whether of the footage that we already have. So would a sudden seasonal change be too jarring to the audience?
As for the title, yes I can put some more titles in the opening such as “so and so presents”, etc. Then have the title come after that, if that’s better?
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Ryan Elder
December 25, 2018 at 5:03 am -
Greg Janza
December 27, 2018 at 7:41 pmPart of your struggle is that you don’t have a rhythm going with the piece. I’d advocate that you add music. Find some tracks that have the right tone and try laying them underneath as a bed. Use the music to punctuate the oration. The music will also allow you better pause points.
I’d also advocate that you watch some other essay style pieces to get a sense of your editorial options. And to really understand the power of dramatic pauses I’d recommend that you listen to any episode of This American Life. It’s a radio show but Ira Glass is an absolute master at weaving music and voice in a rhythm that maximizes the dramatic power of the material. This method of pausing the content so that the listener/viewer can digest what has been said makes all of the difference. People need time to process information and if the info comes at them without any breaks they get lost and disinterested because they’re lost. Youtubers defy this with their editorial style and it works for them but for most material, pausing is essential.
A lot of the edits in the current cut are bringing attention to the edits themselves-primarily because you’re hard cutting and cutting in awkward places instead of L cutting and weaving the visuals. The goal is to hide the edits so that the viewer gets immersed into the story.
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Ryan Elder
December 27, 2018 at 8:22 pmOkay thanks. It’s funny you say to use L cuts cause a lot of the cuts are L cuts and J cuts. Are there any places where I missed using an L or J, cause I couldn’t find any?
Also, the music composer is going to compose the music once I have the final cut, that way he can time the music correctly of course.
But should he compose the music beforehand, and I should time it to his music? We’ve done a couple of rough drafts of music so far, but I changed the timing a lot, cause it was too quick before, so I wanted to get that down first, so the composer has a final cut to work with.
Isn’t a movie normally edited first to a final cut, then the composer does the score?
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Ryan Elder
December 27, 2018 at 8:25 pmOh I think I know what you mean, are you saying that I have don’t have enough L cuts, because of the new pauses? I put in the pauses cause I was told before that it flows too quick without enough pauses.
But if I need more pauses, that means there will be less L cuts in the dialogue though. Which is more important to have? L cuts in the dialogue, or more pauses?
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