What Do we Do now? How Do you Feel?

[Illya Laney]

What Avid features are clumsy?

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[Chris Jacek]

I think he was joking

Professor, Producer, Editor
and former Apple Employee

[Illya Laney]

Herb Sevush
“these have very little relevance to the glacial pace of feature film editing”

In Hollywood it’s not just features, but narrative television and trailers too. Believe it or not, there’s still many high budget trailers being cut on AVID in SD from DVCAM tapes.

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[Ewan Lim]

Or maybe he meant that the next iMovie will be modelled after FCP7. Complete with external monitoring and xml/edl export capabilities. Also not forgetting real background rendering that works while you edit and not while u let it be idle. All these on 64bit and using most of openGL.

Ewan
Avid, FCS3, Premiere Pro, After Effects

[John Chay]

Moving clips around the timeline with your mouse is much easier on FCP7 than on Avid. I personally like FCP7 better but I work with Avid everyday.

http://www.john-chay.com

Editor/Videographer

[Bill Paris]

Tried FCPX for the first time today and felt more and more angry the more I used it…… Editing for 30 years in broadcast, I learned the FCP UI from version 1 and was hoping FCP-X would have the same user interface with new 64 bit horsepower and integrated Color, Compressor, STP, etc…. instead what we got was a “new paradigm” that forces us to either learn this new UI or switch to another program and start over. Thanks apple!!! I thought by committing to the apple eco system years ago I would learn one system I could use for years to come, but Apple thinks I should start over and learn a new UI… a new paradigm….. well I think I’ll take their advice and learn Avid or Premiere.

Isn’t it interesting how almost everyone on these boards is talking about which program to use now that FCPX has turned into Imovie Pro. You have to wonder if we all dig in and try to make FCPX work for our work flows …. hang in there with Apple giving them our feedback on how to improve the product for the Pro user for the next 10 years…. maybe they’ll get close to perfecting this new FCPX product and all of us will get really good at the UI and be cranking out great shows, commercials, promos, movies, etc…. Then will Apple decide it’s time for a new paradigm again? We’ve already been down this road with them over the past decade….I for one will be using version 7 as long as I can, to keep my business running… play with FCP-X when I want to cut my kids soccer game video and start looking for a system/company that won’t abandon the professional users who have invested years learning their UI….. listening Adobe and Avid?

Sorry I had to vent…. it really makes me mad!

Bill Paris
Producer/Director of Photography
Crew Hawaii Television
http://www.crewhawaii.com

[Dennis Radeke]

[Bill Paris] ” listening Adobe and Avid?”

Yes we are Bill.

Dennis – Adobe guy

[Bill Celnick]

Everything you’ve said is very true – for me it’s not the first time I’ve switched due to very bad corporate decisions (maybe they’re good bottom line corporate decisions that simply affect us adversely, after all, we’re not a stock holder, just a customer).

Although its not quite the same situation, in 2006 I needed to upgrade my editing system to accommodate HDV – was a PC guy editing on Premiere 6.5 with Windows XP. Along comes Microsoft with Windows Vista that just plain wasn’t working with my then hardware – and at the time I felt that I couldn’t invest in something new that didn’t work, and didn’t want a new system with XP since it was obviously being discontinued.

So, in 2006 I bought a Mac Book Pro and began my transition. This was all due to both corporate decisions and my need to get my work done in a proven, stable environment – I loved it once I got up to speed – spent less time fighting with my computer and more time editing.

So Apple has become Microsoft in its cavalier decision to release a product that wasn’t ready. People will argue that FCP X is ready, but not for those who need the features it lacks. I use both card and tape so no, its not ready.

[Don Scioli]

I learned to edit at USC Cinema school using a crappy and clumsy Moviola, which didn’t stop us from winning the Academy Award for the student film FIELD OF HONOR. Then when the Kem tables and Steinbecks came out, I almost died and went to heaven (Spielberg still edits on one). Then video editing with CMX, then Avid, then a great NLE program called Cinestream, until FCP.

The key with all those systems was that the new one was always better, easier, awesome and made work go much quicker. Not with FCPx, it is a BIG step backward, as everything is slower, harder and not awe-inspiring.

[Thomas Frank]

No problem Gary let me explain for you.
Have you ever heard of the Napoleon’s Corporal theory?
Probably not unless you know European history or you where in the services with a good leadership in your chain of command.

Napoleon recognized how vital it was to have an enlisted soldier in the planning process. During every Battle Plans briefing Napoleon would have a Corporal shine his boots knowing that the Corporal was listening. Once the General Staff finished the brief, Napoleon would look down at the Corporal and asked if he understood the plan. If the Corporal answered, Yes Sir! The General would have his Staff execute the plan. If the Corporal answered, No Sir! The General would have the General Staff rewrite the plan.

This is a kick a$$ business plan for any workflow in any business type!
Apple MIGHT be using this for there software which might be if you look at there user friendliness!
Create a interface and design for app repackage it for a inexperience crowd and deploy it.
If they can use then a experience user should be able to understand it.
Maybe iMovie was the beta? Never know….