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Welcome Final Cut X
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That is a very good list. But while ther are creatures from Color and Soundtrack in FCPX, there is no evidence currently that they won’t exist on their own.
Russ
Russell Lasson
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Color Mill
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Terence Curren: “I looked at the big picture after NAB last year and theorized where they would go with FCP. Tonight I was proven right.”
From the predictions of yours that I’ve seen — far from all of them, I’m sure — I don’t think you could say you’ve been proven right.
Colour management isn’t an iMovie feature. Nor is 4K. Same for sample-level audio editing. And something becoming simpler does not mean it’s become less pro.
Anyway, this was advertised as a “sneak peak”, so I wasn’t surprised that it left a lot of questions, and as has been said, none of us are in a position to draw proper conclusions yet.
Now for a little prediction of my own: does anyone think Apple might offer some of the features from Color, Motion, Soundtrack, Compressor, as well as some of the stuff they’ve left out from FCP7, as “extended features” you can download from the App Store as plug-ins? Along with third-party plug-ins (in exchange for a 30% cut)? I hope I don’t have to open FCP just to use Compressor though…
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[Keith Pratt] “Colour management isn’t an iMovie feature. Nor is 4K. Same for sample-level audio editing. And something becoming simpler does not mean it’s become less pro.”
And when did I say anything about these things? I predicted using the iMovie code as a base, and adding features that FCP editors would want. It is much easier to do that than to try to rewrite FCP from the ground up.
Terence Curren
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[Craig Seeman] “Now the concerns/questions.
I really need to see the source/viewer window video at the same size as the Canvas. I don’t get how I can accurately mark an in and out otherwise. Can someone explain how this is done? I have to believe this must have been shown…”Can anyone comment on this? How does iMovie handle that, and is it the same in FCP X? I’m generally pleased (enthusiastic, even) about most of what I’ve heard, but this seems like a bizarre sticking point. I don’t need a traditional Viewer/Canvas model, but I need two large views of my outgoing frame in the timeline and the ingoing frame that I’m considering using.
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“Reports that say that something hasn’t happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns — the ones we don’t know we don’t know.”
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“Let’s remember that Apple’s business model is to use software to sell hardware. They’re thinking about all the MacPro they’re going to sell to push all this real time and background render to the max as we aim for the fastest possible workflows on impossibly tighter client deadlines (and tighter budgets).”
There is no free lunch. No transcoding for long GOP formats takes horsepower. 64 bit, and using all the cores is great. Unless you don’t have a lot of cores to start with.
All that background rendering is going to kill all those that cheaped out and didn’t buy the biggest, baddest machine they could get.
Snow Leopard means all those non-Intel machines are boat anchors.Scott Sheriff
Director
https://www.sstdigitalmedia.comI have a system, it has stuff in it, and stuff hooked to it. I have a camera, it can record stuff. I read the manuals, and know how to use this stuff and lots of other stuff too.
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[Rafael Amador] “Now I know that I have FC for at least another 10 years.
I don’t understand so much concern around.”The concern is a lot of folks (including myself) use the entire suite of apps, not just FC. So far in reviewing the list of features and thinking about all the unanswered questions, I’m not inclined to reinvent my wheel.
Scott Sheriff
Director
https://www.sstdigitalmedia.comI have a system, it has stuff in it, and stuff hooked to it. I have a camera, it can record stuff. I read the manuals, and know how to use this stuff and lots of other stuff too.
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[Marcus Samuel-Gaskin] “the ones we don’t know we don’t know”
it’s all empty and meaningless marcus, empty and meaningless, and meaningless THAT it’s empty and meaningless
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[Keith Hamm] “The new interface had me reaching for my barf bag. Still lots of very unanswered questions. If I was a FCP only shop looking at this demo I’d be VERY nervous right now about the money I have invested in a FCP pipeline. Shake anyone?
What of TRIM? What about a COLLABORATIVE PROJECT ENVIRONMENT? SERVER BASED TECHNOLOGY? And MEDIA MANAGEMENT? Weakest parts of FCP I can tell you first hand, the lack of media management in FCP is an assistant’s nightmare. I’m dealing with it on a daily basis.
Oh but it will sync the sound for you. Have you seen what it can do with iChat and this magnetic timeline?
So lame but we’ve come to expect consumer products now from Apple. I hope Avid is paying attention. They are more than long overdue on their own full re-write.”
Keith,
I agree . One part of the new interface I did like is that it’s dark. That is a problem for the current UI. It would be nice if the biggest font size for the UI could have a bigger range. I hate wearing reading glasses when I’m editing. Not everyone that uses FC is a 20-something with 20/20 vision.
Media Manager isn’t completely broken, but it certainly could have some huge improvements. You hit some other weak areas. Here are some others that seemed to have been swept under the rug.
Nesting has never worked as advertised, and causes more problems then it solves.
FXScript. A great, but underused function. No mention of still having this feature.
Video Scopes accuracy has always been lacking.
Timecode. It would be a great thing to have the ability to alter source TC’s. I know this can cause problems, but it would be a welcome option to fix broken/wrong code.
And like you, I’m sarcastic on the syncing sound for you thing. A basic editing function. The ‘feature’ seems to be aimed at the ‘johnny-come-latelys’.Scott Sheriff
Director
https://www.sstdigitalmedia.comI have a system, it has stuff in it, and stuff hooked to it. I have a camera, it can record stuff. I read the manuals, and know how to use this stuff and lots of other stuff too.
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[Scott Sheriff] “The concern is a lot of folks (including myself) use the entire suite of apps, not just FC.”
The rest of the suit is coming.
BTW, are you sure you can not use the rest of the FCS3 applications with FC-X?People talk about “reinvention”?
What reinvention?
Apple wants to reinvent the computer, no the user or the application.
Reinventing video editing?(AVID tried long ago)I haven’t had time to go through all the info.
I just had a look to the new interface and for what I see FCX won’t complicate my life.
Just few new things to learn.
Apple is just making FC works properly and be able to grow-up.Almost no-learning-curve is one of the reasons of the FC success. Apple knows it and they won’t screw this now.
rafael
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