Way OT: Kodak reviving Super8

[Gary Huff]

[Bill Davis] “They do NOT make them like they used to!”

Yep, they are much better now.

[David Mathis]

For that price, I could get a Digital Bolex camera and some lenses for it. I was lucky enough to get a Super 16 Bolex for about $300 on eBay, she is in very good condition. I think there should be a revival in the 16 mm market.

I believe that Bolex continues to make new film cameras but at a much higher premium.

With that new Kodak camera, looks like home movies about cats.

[Bill Davis]

Hardly negates Santayana’s observation…

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

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[Bill Davis]

And in addition to the production cost issue Noah raises, there’s the environmental one as well.

The silver nitrate based toxic chemical stew that was traditionally associated with film processing just seems like 18th century tech.

You can’t avoid all chemicals and pollutants – that’s a given – but when society has developed reasonable alternatives and simply CHOOSE to continue to generate toxic sludge, I’d like a better reason than “But it makes me feel so retro-wonderful!”

I love aesthetics as much as the next guy. But sometimes chasing them just don’t make enough sense.

My 2 cents.

Your mileage will most certainly vary.

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[Andrew Kimery]

[Bill Davis] “You can’t avoid all chemicals and pollutants – that’s a given – but when society has developed reasonable alternatives and simply CHOOSE to continue to generate toxic sludge, I’d like a better reason than “But it makes me feel so retro-wonderful!””

Honest question, does anyone know how ‘clean’ the mining of raw materials, manufacturing and disposal of electronic equipment used in modern cameras is compared to film? I know countries have tried to go green and ban/limit the use of things like lead in manufacturing, but I don’t know how extensive those measures are. As a primer this is a recycling web site’s list of hazardous materials that are commonly used in electronic devices.

https://ewasteguide.info/hazardous-substances

-Andrew

[Bill Davis]

Andrew.

Your question caused me to do a bit more research and it appears that my traditional thinking about the environmental impact of photo chemical processing might have been out of date. It appears that while photo processing discharge is a thing – there are ways to mitigate the environmental impact. So the hipsters can maybe rejoice. Live and learn!

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[Andrew Kimery]

[Bill Davis] “there are ways to mitigate the environmental impact.”

Please tell me they put the waste into large barrels and shoot them into the Sun? 😉

[David Mathis]

Do they send the film back after it has been developed? I would like to have it and would prefer to scan the film myself. Willing to take on the learning curve and develop a new skill set.

[Noah Kadner]

I can’t imagine they wouldn’t send you the developed film along with a digital copy. Hopefully in nice ProRes 444 and not something silly like H.264. Can you imagine….

Noah

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[Bill Davis]

Nothing so cinematic. Seems to employ sulfur to turn the damaging silver nitrate into something much more environmentally benign. Found an interesting article on a photo hobbyist/environmentalist who asked real chemistry experts how to treat his darkroom discharge into a maybe leaky septic system near a fragile ecosystem – and got surprisingly happy answers. ACTUAL science to the rescue – and my opinion has officially changed. At least until the next time I’m swayed by an argument!

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