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VR – will it be DOA just like stereo 3D ?
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[Andrew Kimery] “[David Lawrence] ”
Yes, great idea! Tim?”I think creating a new forum is a virtual lock if Tim thinks its time as come around.
I’ll show myself out now. ;)”
No need. As the Good Book says, “Let the one of you who is without pun cast the first groan.”
Here ya go: VR (Virtual Reality)/360º Video
THIS one, I’ll happily rename. LOL Much lower barrier for a forum with no traffic. yet 🙂
As with most of the new forums we start (including this one), this new one is a “dynamic” forum, which pulls the keywords “VR” and “virtual reality” from anywhere in the site. Once it starts generating organic traffic, we’ll turn off the “dynamic” nature, and let it rise or fall as it will. Again, like this one.
As a result, the only thing in that forum right now is this thread (co-located), an assload of NAB press releases, and a thread from the Business forum which I can summarize as “I don’t see a way to make money from this yet.” LOL
I’ve culled most of the threads that were sucked up by the keyword mechanism, but there may be a few extraneous ones that sneak in until I refine it.
So it’s a little barren just yet, but it’s there. 🙂
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The hype is because computer sales are in the toilet and silly-con-man valley desperately needs some way to make people’s computers obsolete so they can sell people more powerful replacements.
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Actually, Fusion has be 30 years away for the last 60 years, but the analogy is a good one.
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[Robert Olhsson] “The hype is because computer sales are in the toilet and silly-con-man valley desperately needs some way to make people’s computers obsolete so they can sell people more powerful replacements.”
Apart from it works on phones and soon it will on games consoles. Yes you need a fast PC for the best VR, but if it takes of it will be at the mid-end of the market
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[Robert Olhsson] “The hype is because computer sales are in the toilet and silly-con-man valley desperately needs some way to make people’s computers obsolete so they can sell people more powerful replacements.”
I’m obvs on board with the hype, but I don’t agree with this at all. Nobody’s talking about new computers, Premiere Pro is supporting it with updates being fed through your existing subscriptions, and consumers can get in with the cell phones they already own and some Google Cardboard. I’m all-in for $16 and free delivery from Amazon Prime. You can get super-nice rigs for under $40.
In fact, I’m struck by how LITTLE incremental new revenue will be generated by this. Even the multi-camera rigs are inexpensive, and access to multiple GoPros or Blackmagic Cinema Cameras is easy. Even renting multiple Alexas is not unusual for productions that are renting any. This is all doable for a fraction of the cost anybody was ever talking about for 3D.
Which is why, again, I feel like this is “realer.” The storytelling is potentially disruptive, but production and consumption are anything but. As Steve notes, nearly everybody in this forum already owns all the computing juice they need.
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I’m talking about the person being entertained and not production requirements.
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[Robert Olhsson] “I’m talking about the person being entertained and not production requirements.”
And that’s what I’m talking about too. No computer whatsoever. I spent $16 on Google Cardboard, strapped in a 1 year old cell phone, and am freaking out over how well it works.
Google Cardboard, $15.99 Includes nosepad! LOL And those are kinda top of the line. You can get ’em for under $10 with Amazon Prime free 2-day delivery.
If you’re willing to live without Prime (WHY? WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT? lol), you can get ’em for $1.99 and a buck fifty shipping. Not recommended, but srsly. You’ve probably paid this much just to get rid of the ads on some crappy game app.
Forget the computer. Forget the 3DTV (although I do have three of those. LOL) Easy. Cheap.
When I upgrade, I’ve currently got my eye on the Viewmaster model that David Lawrence recommended. The current version is $29.99. David recommended v2, which isn’t out yet, but surely won’t be that much more, right?
Oh yeah, so far all the content I’m watching is free…but I’ve definitely seen some things I wouldn’t mind paying for.
Or am I still missing what you’re talking about? Not the first time someone has said this to me today. LOL
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[Robert Olhsson] “The hype is because computer sales are in the toilet and silly-con-man valley desperately needs some way to make people’s computers obsolete so they can sell people more powerful replacements.”
That’s basically the business model around every product ever made. 😉
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[Tim Wilson] “David recommended v2, which isn’t out yet, but surely won’t be that much more, right?”
My bet is it’ll be $29.99 😉
But you can get other v2 viewers on Amazon today (Cardboard v2 is built on the newer standard introduced at I/O 2015 and supports larger phones and a wider FOV).
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[Paul Dickin] “The one huge topic that most people knew nothing about in 1990?: The understanding of the neuroscience of cognitive awareness.”
[Paul Dickin] “David Eagleman, in this clip, talks about the mechanism the brain uses in its perception of ‘reality’, which is a dynamic modelling process.
“Moment to moment what we experience isn’t whats really out there, instead its a beautifully rendered simulation…
Its called the Internal Model, and its vital to our ability to function.””[Paul Dickin] “This whole new neuroscience-based way of thinking allows an understanding of the way in which VR can be effective, but I think its important to realise that the R in VR is misnamed… Maybe it should be VC, virtual cognition. ;-)”
Great post, Paul, thank you. This is exactly the kind of meaty stuff that got me interested in VR to begin with! 🙂
I especially like Eagleman’s example comparing the way a camera sees with the way we see the world. As Barlow says, we’re “making it up as we go along”.
As far as the big VR topic no one was discussing in 1990, I wish it were something this interesting.
But nope, it’s something a lot more banal. Let’s see if someone else can guess. 😉
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