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  • Vince Becquiot

    February 1, 2007 at 3:39 pm

    On a side note, unless Vista is proven to run Premiere faster because of some internal design, it’s likely it will run slower just because Vista is a resource grinder.

    Vince

  • Harm Millaard

    February 1, 2007 at 3:40 pm

    as has been proven by the first benchmarks. Up to 60% slower….

  • David Cherniack

    February 1, 2007 at 3:43 pm

    [Vincent Becquiot] “but expecting PP2 to work on it the day Vista is released”

    Who said that? Al I said was, given the resourses useage of PPro that I would have expected the Adobe engineers to incorporate plans for 64 bit Windows when they coded version 1.0.

    David
    AllinOneFilms.com

  • David Cherniack

    February 1, 2007 at 3:48 pm

    [Steven L. Gotz] “In the meantime, if you want to change to some other program, feel free to do so.”

    Steven, if this statement was intended for me, I do. I also feel free to criticize the engineering of PPro. There are a whole bunch of high end users out there who suffer memory/resource related crashes in front of clints that are so plentiful that it’s embarassing. Many of them would switch in a heartbeat.

    David
    AllinOneFilms.com

  • Vince Becquiot

    February 1, 2007 at 4:31 pm

    Dave, 64 bits has been evolving over the last few years, and unfortunately, XP was never up to the task; let’s hope Vista will be. Look at how few applications running 64 bits there are out there… The OS has to support it fully before Adobe releases a 64 bit version of anything. Apple isn’t there either…

    I think we’d all like to see great performance, but if that means having to save every 10 seconds, I’ll live with what I have.

    Cheers,

    Vince

  • Harm Millaard

    February 1, 2007 at 4:31 pm

    Given your line of thought, they should be ready for 512 bit implementations by version 3.0

  • Steven L. gotz

    February 1, 2007 at 5:14 pm

    David,

    In that case, IMHO, your time would be better spent writing feature requests and bug reports. I am not saying that Adobe never reads these forums, they probably do. But they pay more attention to direct emails and reports. If you really want to catch their attention, spring for a stamp and send snail mail.

    Perhaps my frustration is showing. I apologize. I just get tired of hearing people blast Adobe for not supporting a new OS that just came out this week. Especially since almost everyone here knows that Adobe never announces in advance. With the exception of announcing the Mac version for this summer. It could be announced next week for all we know. I doubt it, but it is possible.

    Also, I never crash Premiere Pro. So I really don’t understand why other people don’t avoid doing the things that cause crashes. Do I wish I didn’t have to avoid them? Sure! Do I know how? Apparently. Of course, I use After Effects to help me avoid issues that cause problems with Premiere Pro. And I use Audition to get my audio ready.

    I do have the advantage of not having the type of clients who watch over my shoulder. I show them the almost finished material, get their input, and deliver the product. Much easier, I admit. Nonetheless, I still don’t crash. I do reboot now and then when I have been using multiple apps during the editing process. But that is just a hassle I can deal with for now.

    My PC is relatively new ( https://www.stevengotz.com/pc.htm ) and could easily handle Vista, but I am in no hurry to make a change in OS until I can see a reason.

    Steven
    https://www.stevengotz.com

  • David Cherniack

    February 1, 2007 at 5:23 pm

    [Steven L. Gotz] “Perhaps my frustration is showing. I apologize. I just get tired of hearing people blast Adobe for not supporting a new OS that just came out this week.”

    No problem, Steven.

    I wasn’t at all suggesting that Adobe support Vista 64 out of the chute, only that they probably have planned (or should have planned) to support it through their development process. I expect the next version might support it given the howling that I see on some private lists. At least I hope so. Even though I do take steps to avoid the memory issue, some things, like long timeline renders in HD, just cause it grief. I’ll gladly trade a little slowdown for less restarts.

    David
    AllinOneFilms.com

  • Steven L. gotz

    February 1, 2007 at 5:39 pm

    Do you mean HD or HDV? Are you editing native HDV? If so, I can see where you would hate the program. Without Cineform Aspect HD, I would probably be tearing my hair out by the roots.

    Steven
    https://www.stevengotz.com

  • David Cherniack

    February 1, 2007 at 5:47 pm

    [Steven L. Gotz] “Do you mean HD or HDV? Are you editing native HDV? If so, I can see where you would hate the program. Without Cineform Aspect HD, I would probably be tearing my hair out by the roots.”

    I’m editing HDV but on an AxioHD system which makes it an even greater joy (for me) than Aspect/Prospect.

    For those unaware of what Axio can do with HDV you should journey over to the Matrox site. In an nutshell you get multiple channels of realtime with effects including excellent CC, secondary CC, chromakey etc. all converted in realtime to HDSDI. IOW you get the storage advantages of HDV and the output advantages of uncompressed.

    David
    AllinOneFilms.com

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