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  • Andy Neil

    November 23, 2011 at 4:42 pm

    [Alan Lacey]“if you can view individual fields in FCPX surely by selecting a suitable section of a clip and jogging through the fields you could check wether the field sequence is correct couldn’t you?”

    You’re not viewing individual fields, you’re able to view either one (probably the dominant field), or both at the same time. I think only Avid is able to view either/or fields. I don’t know how well you can judge it by looking at both. Perhaps you can. Personally, if I know that a DVD will be viewed on both computers and set-top players, I try to make it a progressive DVD.

    Andy

    https://www.timesavertutorials.com

  • Jeremy Garchow

    November 23, 2011 at 4:43 pm

    [Alan Lacey] “What do you mean by a proper monitor Jeremy? I have a broadcast LCD which I can’t hook up to FCPX “

    That’s what I mean. Without proper video output from FCPX, it will be harder to spot any issues. As of now, you have to export the movie and watch it through AJA TV or something.

    Supposedly broadcast out is coming to the next version of FCPX.

    Jeremy

  • Jeremy Garchow

    November 23, 2011 at 4:49 pm

    [Mitch Ives] “Agreed, nor my Kona3. If FCPX supported the Kona 3, Apple could stop a lot of people leaving and going to Premiere and Avid…”

    What makes things interesting is if you read the release notes for the Kona v9.1 drivers, all Kona products are “Thunderbolt aware”.

    Jeremy

  • Mitch Ives

    November 23, 2011 at 4:57 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “[Mitch Ives] ” I am disappointed to find out that Apple has had no communication with AJA about any of this. ”

    What do you mean?”

    AJA was at the local FCPUG meeting, and he was completely unaware of the update coming in 2012. I figured that might be classic rep behavior, so we exchanged cards and then he followed up requesting the link on Apple’s site so he could talk to AJA management.

    I followed up when he got back to HQ. He spoke to those in charge and I was told that no one in AJA has had any conversations with Apple. The fact that they are not even aware that Apple is (supposedly) going to provide professional monitoring is somewhat alarming. What was the point of Richard Townhill going on parade and doing damage control? Is Apple really serious? That makes me think it will be some kind of lame Thunderbolt support, using more Cinema displays.

    Mitch Ives
    Insight Productions Corp.
    mitch@insightproductions.com
    http://www.insightproductions.com

  • Mitch Ives

    November 23, 2011 at 5:00 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “What makes things interesting is if you read the release notes for the Kona v9.1 drivers, all Kona products are “Thunderbolt aware”.”

    Yes, I saw that… I just wish I knew what that meant?

    Mitch Ives
    Insight Productions Corp.
    mitch@insightproductions.com
    http://www.insightproductions.com

  • Alan Lacey

    November 23, 2011 at 5:02 pm

    Thanks Andy, trouble with the progressive route is that I usually have legacy material to include. Any tips about converting this to progressive before the edit? I have AE, shake etc.

    I do remember doing a upper/lower field comparison years ago in one of the compositing apps to establish correct field order but can’t recall the details.

    Alan

    FlashXDR,XDcamHD,XDcamEX,D9 etc
    FCS,AE,Combustion,LiquidSilver,Vegas,Edius,
    G5,MBP,Vista64,XP

  • Jeremy Garchow

    November 23, 2011 at 5:07 pm

    [Andy Neil] “You’re not viewing individual fields, you’re able to view either one (probably the dominant field), or both at the same time.”

    Option left or right arrow shoves you forward/back one field at a time.

    Jeremy

  • Robert Brown

    November 23, 2011 at 5:07 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “Lets take a big step back here.

    Fcp7 handled interlaced material just fine. “

    It did on a basic playback sense but you have no control of field or frame based processing like I had in the linear days and the quality took a big step back because of that. Of course everybody probably got used to frame blended framed based slo mos of field based materials but a 1980’s beta-cam slo mo was far better and the K-Scope I used to use gave my every option I would ever want. Sorry but FCP is pretty weak at all of this stuff. Works fine in progressive though.

    Robert Brown
    Editor/VFX/Colorist – FCP, Smoke, Quantel Pablo, After Effects, 3DS MAX, Premiere Pro

    https://vimeo.com/user3987510/videos

  • Jeremy Garchow

    November 23, 2011 at 5:11 pm

    [Mitch Ives] “I followed up when he got back to HQ. He spoke to those in charge and I was told that no one in AJA has had any conversations with Apple. The fact that they are not even aware that Apple is (supposedly) going to provide professional monitoring is somewhat alarming. What was the point of Richard Townhill going on parade and doing damage control? Is Apple really serious? That makes me think it will be some kind of lame Thunderbolt support, using more Cinema displays.”

    Hmm. Well, I would take all of this with a grain of salt.

    If really there’s no capture card support out of FCPX and they expect us to use a Thunderbolt display, that’s seriously all I will need to know. I’m out if that’s the case, but I highly doubt that this is the case.

    AJA is, I’m sure, under strict NDA.

    Apple themselves listed AJA as beta test partners in the FAQ.

    Jeremy

  • Jeremy Garchow

    November 23, 2011 at 5:14 pm

    [Mitch Ives] “Yes, I saw that… I just wish I knew what that meant?”

    It means that the Kona cards can be stuck in an external Thunderbolt/PCIe enclosure and work as the Kona will recognize the signals coming via Thunderbolt.

    You could then hook your Kona 3 to a Thunderbolt iMac for example. Theoretically.

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