Version 6 Time Code bug?

[Mark Maness]

Sounds like you have a multi-fold problem here… and its not necessarily a FCP issue. It’s more of a personnel issue and not capturing the media correctly.

Can you tell if your footage is actually captured or is it imported footage? Look in you Capture Scratch folder and see if you have files with the same names as in your bins. If so, the footage was most likely captured incorrectly. If you see different file names or not at all, then you footage was imported from another source or folder.

The “not yet” that you are seeing in your Capture column comes from footage that has been imported and not captured. This is very normal.

The issues you are having usually happen when dealing with a client that uses someone to capture footage elsewhere and you edit at a later time. Most of the time, a person who is in charge of capturing footage is most likely not an editor but a production assistant. This isn’t always the case, but sometimes and I can’t say this is the case for you.

But, if timecodes are going to be an issue for you, I’d suggest getting a copy of the tapes or talking with someone at the capture facility and asking them to look at the footage they sent you. Then, having some recapture the footage properly and send that to you to edit.

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[Shane Ross]

[Barbara Ballow] “Also, under capture in the bin each clip says “not yet”. What does that mean?”

NOT YET? I have never seen that before. I’ll have to look into that. Where did you see it? CAPTURE? What is that? It isn’t a column heading.

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[Barbara Ballow]

What I don’t understand is how could footage from a tape source be imported, not captured. Unless something went very wrong in the capture process and no one is willing to own up to it. The bins are named by tape number (at least there is that), but each project was called “capture” and so I have been re-organizing.
Its a lot of footage to recapture and slows down our edit schedule by two weeks, so I have decided to back these drives up and hope I don’t have to go back to the original sources. Not ideal, but the time and expense of a redo is hard to justify. Even if done offsite, all the work I am doing now would not translate to the new capture. Can you think of any downsides within FCP (other than being unable to match back to the source tapes) by working with what I have?

[Mark Maness]

By being imported, I mean that someone had captured the footage into a project, then moved to a new project and to keep from recapturing the footage, they just imported the footage from the first project. I have seen this before and it had the same issue you are seeing.

FCP by its nature handles media very differently than Avid.

But since you have the media on drives and you said that you were going to back these up, it should be just fine for editing. But now, if you had to make the footage offline and needed to recapture at a later date – you would enter into an editor’s nightmare. Changes at a later date could cause you to drink yourself into a stupor…

Keep all your footage safe and everything will be OK. Burning to BluRay would be a great backup option to consider.

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[David Roth weiss]

[Barbara Ballow] “What I don’t understand is how could footage from a tape source be imported, not captured.”

Barbara,

Is it possible that this material was captured in Premiere or some other NLE and then transcoded to QT? THat could easily cause this exact issue.

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[Mark Maness]

Thank you, David…

That was the idea I was grasping but just a bit out of reach while I’m editing and responding to posts during the renders.

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[Barbara Ballow]

I have e-mailed the woman who did the capturing and asked her
repeatedly to tell me what she did, but I have gotten no answer.
It may time to withhold her payment until she at least gives me a straight answer. She has cost me at least a day of edit time.
If I find out, I will post it.

[Jeremy Garchow]

barbara I am on location at the moment and can’t look but I am not sure about the hdv process. When I saw it it happened with dv. The clips were logged df but the tapes were ndf. After capturing with the regular NTSC dv setting, the timecode and reel disappeared. After changing the device control to firewire ndf the clips captured fine and retained all their metadata. I have no idea I this will help your situation as I am unsure if hdv has the same device control presets as dv. You have also received other great suggestions in this thread.

[Barbara Ballow]

A related question: when I try to find a master clip in the browser, I get the message “Master clip not present. Would you like to add master clip to the Browser”. But I have the bin open and I can see the clip. I’m trying to get my head around the master clip/affiliate clip concept. Have my clips somehow become independent clips? Not being able to match back to the master clip is a concern.

[Mark Maness]

You’re OK…

[Barbara Ballow] “when I try to find a master clip in the browser, I get the message “Master clip not present. Would you like to add master clip to the Browser”.”

How are you doing this? What process are you going through when you see this error?

I hope I’m not missing your question but let me see if I can answer it for you.

Anytime you capture footage or import footage, FCP automatically creates a master clip for that file. The icon you see is a master clip icon. Now, when you place markers on clips, you create what is called a subclip. The icon looks like a torn edged master clip icon. You can make master clips from these, if you’d like. But you can’t make a master clip from a master clip.

Just to show you what I am talking about. Right-Click (Control-Click for a one button mouse) and scroll down the column to Item Properties, then click on Logging Info. This will show you all of the logging info for that clip, including if it is a master clip.

[Barbara Ballow] “Have my clips somehow become independent clips?”

I have to ask… Are these clips that you have very long clips with markers placed on them (subclips)? If they are, you’ll see a little arrow to the left of the master clip icon. You can open this arrow to show you all of you subclips. From there, you can create independent master clips if you wish.

Now, when you have a clip in your sequence, you can make an independent master clip from that if you’d like, but I have never done this since almost everything you do in FCP is non-destructive to the clip and only affects that clip in your sequence. What I’m trying to say is that you can have the same clip in your sequence ten times and use ten different effects and it will never destroy your clip in the bin window – it will just affect the clip in the sequence only.

Am I close to answering you question?

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