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Version 1.0 is the new 0.9 – CNet Article
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[Simon Ubsdell] “Absolutely – and I’d like to be the first to nominate Aindreas as my Man of the Year 2011.”
I second the motion.
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[Walter Soyka] “[Simon Ubsdell] “Absolutely – and I’d like to be the first to nominate Aindreas as my Man of the Year 2011.”
I second the motion.”
Motion is carried!
“My Name is Steve and I’m an FCPX user”
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[Jeremy Garchow] “I am not saying that FCP7 wasn’t ubiquitous and extensible, or used by top notch establishments. It certainly was, and a lot of that was due to the mature XML language and nothing else. But it wasn’t the holy grail of technology that it seems to be made up to be.”
Agreed 100%, with one addition: FCP was enormously fluid, flexible, and tactile. Compared with Avid, FCP offered a multitude of ways to accomplish the same editorial operations, and never required the interruption of a mode change to continue work. I think FCP’s interface — which built on what came before, while also offering new ways of working — played an important role in its success.
On the subject of XML, FCPX has a huge uphill climb here. Apple threw out a perfectly good interoperability standard because they wanted to change the way the timeline works and solve problems nobody had. Prioritizing a novel timeline paradigm at the expense of interoperability with every other piece of editorial software on the planet is a bizarre choice for a developer who is serious about the markets Mr. Lawrence is referring to.
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[Walter Soyka] “On the subject of XML, FCPX has a huge uphill climb here. Apple threw out a perfectly good interoperability standard because they wanted to change the way the timeline works and solve problems nobody had. Prioritizing a novel timeline paradigm at the expense of interoperability with every other piece of editorial software on the planet is a bizarre choice for a developer who is serious about the markets Mr. Lawrence is referring to.”
No doubt. XML was far from prefect, though. You could only push it so far. Since FCPX seems to be all about containers, it seems that you would be able to push FCPXML a bit farther, but it will certainly take some more work.
Jeremy
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Aside from the already released “core engine” what paradigm shifting magical whiz bang might possibly be in that cone of silence???
Really, I would have to wonder exactly what relevant feature could possibly make this viable for the professional market? Seems they’ve already thrown the biggest features against the wall to see the market reaction.
As Aindreas so eloquently said, “…this software is a failed execution. failed – the general market determination of this software is not a huge debating issue.” I would have to agree and don’t really believe that there is some secret magical feature that will somehow rectify this debacle.
Been waiting and seeing for months, but so far nothing leads me to believe this will be anything but an odd video game. Don’t get me wrong, I would REALLY like to see them release the “psychic render engine”, anything short of that at this point is only going to be more “fail”. But who knows, maybe you’re right and Apple has it waiting in the cone?
I think the point you’ve repeatedly tried to make is that Apple HAS BEEN a technology company. Releasing bold new features before the rest of the industry and staying just 5 minutes ahead of the competition. This is one of the reason’s I’ve been a loyal customer for many, many years. Unfortunately, it seems with this release and the seeming change of focus, this is no longer their primary mission. FCPX is a race to the broader bottom of the market, leaving those who have sailed with this friendly companion high and dry. Given the actions of the last couple of months, it’s hard for me to buy into your dream of “magic in the cone of silence”. Frankly, I was all about that dream just prior to release of this garbage called FCPX. I was right by your side in decrying the nay-sayers who had doubts prior to this release. When this came out, I lost a pound of credibility to this fiasco.
All that being said, what POSSIBLE new thing could EVER make me go back to the people who’s money I spend and say, “This is the way to go!”? Cone of silence or not, what would that be? Really?
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[Marvin Holdman] “Aside from the already released “core engine” what paradigm shifting magical whiz bang might possibly be in that cone of silence???”
Good question. We can speculate but that would have no weight on reality.
I don’t thin one would throw out old GUI concepts unless there’s “more than meets the eye” they’re working on but not talking about.My own speculation is in server side media/asset management but that’s just some interface observation and a crystal ball.
[Marvin Holdman] “Been waiting and seeing for months,”
Realistically things take time. It’ll be a lot faster than other NLE companies can roll out burn and ship releases.
I don’t think the next release is just going be multicam and broadcast monitoring. They’d only tell us stuff that might be important but of no value to the competition.
[Marvin Holdman] “Releasing bold new features before the rest of the industry and staying just 5 minutes ahead of the competition.”
Given they’ve started from scratch it’ll take time. The first iPhone was missing a lot too.
[Marvin Holdman] “FCPX is a race to the broader bottom of the market,”
Broader yes, bottom no. Apple tends to aim broad and climb up. It’s way iPhones and iPads climb into enterprise, into Fortune 500, etc. Aiming wide creates the biggest appeal for third party developers and many of them rider the move up the later.
[Marvin Holdman] “what would that be? Really?”
In a rapidly tightening economy, cost benefit analysis and ROI are leading factors. If a new facility can setup and deliver for half the capital investment of another, they’ll go with it. People really have short memories of where the original FCP came from.
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[Craig Seeman] “Given they’ve started from scratch it’ll take time. The first iPhone was missing a lot too.”
I’d refer to the conversations on Aperture, which sees a major update roughly every 2 years and which hasn’t progressed at all as the iPhone (or Lightroom) has.
Likewise with Motion; it’s been slowly adding features that have been standard in AE for years, but Motion 5 is a lot closer to Motion 1 than the iPhone 4S is to the original iPhone.
I’m open to the possibility that FCPX is just getting started (that’s why I’m still here), but it’s also possible — and would be consistent with Apple’s history — that FCPX is closer to complete than you’re suggesting.
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[Walter Soyka] “Likewise with Motion; it’s been slowly adding features that have been standard in AE for years, but Motion 5 is a lot closer to Motion 1 than the iPhone 4S is to the original iPhone.”
Perhaps the next leaps with Motion didn’t happen because of FCPX. There may have been a major rethink which slowed things down. Personally when Apple EOLd Shake I thought we were going to see more of Shake creep into Motion. I thought they’d add a nodal option for example.
[Walter Soyka] “I’d refer to the conversations on Aperture, which sees a major update roughly every 2 years and which hasn’t progressed at all as the iPhone (or Lightroom) has.”
Admittedly I don’t know where Aperture fits in Apple’s plans at this point.
I’m not even sure where Logic is headed since, I suspect 9 was moved to the App Store since X is further out than some might have expected. There might be a major rethink happening there as well.
I do think FCPX has a specific goal to sell hardware and it had to keep moving forward in system resource demands and . . . desirability, if it’s to achieve that. I don’t expect to see major change in Motion until the next major update after the one in coming quarter.
BTW ProRes may present a quandary to be solved as well. Some are aware of this and that’s why DNxHD seems to be moving in wider use. ProRes may have to break from both Quicktime and how the codec itself does (or doesn’t) use system resources.
I’ll also throw in my own 2¢ on Apple’s H.264. For a company that points to online and “device” playback, they have one of the worst H.264 codecs I know of. It can’t do High Profile or CABAC entropy encoding and that’s what you’re seeing on YouTube’s own encodes for example. At least Compressor can now finally do an H.264 .mp4 encode (with limited feature control).
I still think we’re facing another year long shakeout at Apple.
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