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  • Vax Proof for Independent Contractor

    Posted by Greg Ball on December 7, 2021 at 1:24 am

    So I have a client I’ve worked for for about 3 years, mostly editing, but I did a shoot when COVID first started. I have a shoot scheduled in a week.

    Today the client notified me that “their office requires that I must be vaccinated or show a negative COVID test within 48 hours”.

    I’m not vaccinated, and quite frankly I pretty much stay isolated. I’m probably more concerned about getting COVID from their employees, especially vaccinated employees who can spread COVID than from giving them COVID.

    As an independent contractor, and not an employee, why do I have to either show proof of a vaccine or a negative COVID test?

    If they have a plumbing emergency, do they require a contracted plumber to show proof of a vax before they let him fix their issue? OSHA only seems to address EMPLOYEES, not independent contractors. What are your thoughts?

    John Davidson replied 3 months ago 8 Members · 19 Replies
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  • Ed Cilley

    December 7, 2021 at 1:41 am

    Greg, I hear ya and am in the same boat. Unfortunately, this is the world we live in right now. Fear is strong and many companies don’t want to rock the boat even though the courts have said the mandate is not enforceable. I lost a similar job to this. It would have required flying (which I’ve done many times in the last year) and working with a contracted crew. The end client required the Producer to be vax’d and therefore I lost out on multiple days of work.

    My personal stance is that I make medical decisions based on medical facts. Unfortunately, many won’t agree with us.

  • Mark Raudonis

    December 7, 2021 at 2:44 am


    I know you’re a long time grazer in the pasture, so I’ll try to be gentle here. Vaccine is NOT about you, it’s about everyone else! You can make any choice you want , but you’re not gonna get any sympathy from me or anyone else that you might lose work because of your “choice”. Buck up and accept the consequences of your choice. Don’t try to play the “it’s not fair card”.

  • Greg Ball

    December 7, 2021 at 4:11 pm

    Mark, I’m not sure why you have made this political. but what goes into my body is indeed my choice, not yours. Are you saying that people with the jab can not get the virus or transmit it? Then you’re wrong. Do you or your doctor know the long term effects of the jab?

    Are you aware that data suggests 1 in 317 boys aged 16 to 17 will get myocarditis from the jab and after a third booster, that number may be even higher?

    Are you aware that VAERS suggests that as many as 300,000 Americans may have died from the jab thus far. So yes, it’s my choice not to be jabbed. As an independent contractor (not an employee I’m asking what others think. Does my client have the right to see my medical records?

  • Greg Ball

    December 7, 2021 at 4:13 pm

    Thanks Ed. My feeling is what a company mandates to their employees is up to them, but I am not an employee.

  • Greg Ball

    December 8, 2021 at 1:59 pm

    Funny how my client was just on a shoot out of the country, but because she had the jab, everyone should feel safe around her. She doesn’t need to be tested even though she’ll be around everyone on my shoot, and my team must be either jabbed or show proof of a negative test to be around her!!! Crazy….

  • Patrick Ortman

    December 8, 2021 at 4:02 pm

    I suspect there are many people who are reading this thread and thinking “Nope! Not jumping into THIS mess, not after last Thanksgiving when my crazy QAnon uncle ranted at me for 6 hours about vaccines and microchips.”

    I am not those people.

    Greg, life is simple: their house, their rules. They’re not even forcing you to get vaccinated- just to provide a negative test. If you’re not willing to get tested to do the job, you lose the job. And honestly, you should lose the job. If you’re running around doing production where you’re in super close proximity to crew and clients for 10-12 hours a day and you’re not getting tested beforehand? Shame on you.

  • Brie Clayton

    December 8, 2021 at 5:23 pm

    Just jumping in real quick because, while this is a topic that does affect everyone in this industry, I’d like to remind everyone to keep it relatively cool, and please no insults.

    Thank you!

  • Greg Ball

    December 8, 2021 at 7:13 pm

    Patrick shame on you for not knowing the facts. Are you aware that jabbed people can still spread the virus?

    Going to get tested while you do not have the virus, but many others do, leaves you susceptible to catching the virus and spreading it on your production sight. Since it takes a couple of days for the virus to affect you, you are spreading something that you tested negative for a few days earlier. Kind a of goofy… but hey, follow the science.

    What if they have a plumbing emergency, do they require a contracted plumber to show proof of a vax before they let him fix their issue? OSHA only seems to address EMPLOYEES, not independent contractors.

  • Patrick Ortman

    December 12, 2021 at 4:18 pm

    1. Their house, their rules.

    2. If you are really so terrified of getting Covid that you don’t want to get tested for Covid, you should stay home all the time (and definitely not fly to jobs).

    3. You have brought up plumbing emergencies a few times… it’s interesting, this fixation on plumbing emergencies you seem to have. Is your production an emergency situation? Or an elective one? Also, see #1.

    Greg, it feels like you’re really just blowing off steam here because you lost a job because you refused to follow your client’s safety procedures. Your business, your choice- you made it, and now unfortunately you get to live with the loss of income and possibly the loss of a client.

  • Greg Ball

    December 12, 2021 at 7:31 pm

    Patrick. I can’t believe one person can have so many incorrect statements in one post.

    First., I was asking as an independent contractor if their house, their rules apply. It’s not a given. I was not sure about this, thus my original post.

    Second, I am not “terrified” of getting the virus. I actually believe I had it in 2019. It was horrible. I know for a FACT that I do not have it, because I’m never around anyone who could possible have it. In fact, I believe you are terrified, that’s why you chose to get the unproven jab even though it does not prevent the virus, and you can still spread it to others. You have no clue what’s in the jab, or what the long term effects of the jab will be. No doctor can tell us what the long term effects are. But your fear caused you to take it.

    Third, I am doing my shoot on Tuesday. So I haven’t lost anything. I’m “not blowing off steam” as you mistakenly said. But I am concerned because my client just flew into the country and because a jabbed person can spread the virus, is he safe? My opinion is that HE should be tested beforehand. Not me who hasn’t gone anywhere.

    Fourth, I’m only using a plumber analogy so you can think about how stupid the workplace rules are. Change it from that to an contracted IT person who needs to update plugins and has managed that system for many years.

    Lastly, I’m getting a rapid test today. The original test I was scheduled for involved walking into a CVS with other to get the same test. How many people may have the virus in that store and are standing in close proximity to others? That’s just plain scary and stupid. So I found another rapid test where I can sit in my own safe vehicle, and not come close to others. I’m sure I’m perfectly healthy regardless.

    In closing, please don’t assume that you know anything about me, my business,or my health.

    Have a great Sunday.

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