V5.2 Screwing up PPro 1.5 Batch Capture

[Dkh Lai]

As an editor who is using BMD extreme and Adobe
Premeire Pro 1.5.1 (APPro), would like to share
some of my experiences.

First of all, BMD extreme is an excellent innovative
product.I’ve been using BMD extreme on a PC platform
since BMD Windows driver 5.0. I’m also facing the
same problem with APPro 1.5.1. after installing 5.1.1
BMD driver and onwards.

Initially I thought it was the problem with my P4 intel
925XCV motherboard, then I changed it to BMD validated
motherboard-ASUS INTEL PENTIUM DUAL CORE Asus P5WD2 Premium
2GB DDR2 ram and 2X160GB SATA Raid 0 but Adobe “shut down..”
error still exist. Personally I felt it was BMD driver’s
bug because I’ve been editing with APPro with 1394 firewire
card only solution for years and it was very hard to make
APPro crash.

Secondly, I would like to report that when using BMD DV PAL
project setting, all my DV Pal clips are red on the timeline.
I have try capturing uncompress 8 bit on BMD Uncompress project
setting and place the clips on the timeline and found that
this bug doesn’t appreared. I have tried uninstalling and
installing process and still no success.

Confidently I’m sure you can solve this issue and hoping
for the next driver update.

Thanks

Daniel

[Matt Dowling]

Hi Daniel,

Thanks for the report. Are you absoultely sure this did not happen with 5.0? The reason i ask is that we did some specific changes for Adobe during the certification for Adobe Premiere Pro and OpenHD in 5.1 onwards.

If you have time – could you run the tests that Baz and I suggested to Bill and let us know the results?

Cheers,

Regards,

Matt
Blackmagic Design

[Dkh Lai]

Hi Matt & Baz,

Ok I’ll do the test after I finish my
current event video tommorow.

As for BMD 5.0 wins driver I didn’t
get this crash except PAL interlace
issue.

BTW Can you help me to check why single
layer DV clips on PAL BMD DV project
setting are all in red ( which needs to
be rendered for final output)

Thanks

Regards

Daniel

[Bill Buchanan]

Baz/Matt:

I hid all the folders, opened the project and did the “all offline” as you suggested.

Tried dragging any number of long and short clips/placeholders to the timeline, adjusted lengths, etc. I could not generate a crash.

Baz, as far as “slowly reintroducing clips” trying to find “corrupt media,” I really cannot do that since this project contains over 5,000 clips.

Also, the crashing is so random, so intermittent AND it only occurs (if at all) with the first, second or third clip put on the timeline. Typically, after I reopen the project the second or third time, I don’t get anymore crashes. Since I (and DKH Lai) experienced no crashes with V5.0, surely there must be something in the 5.1 to 5.2 drivers.

Are you suggesting that if only one or more media files are corrupt (out of hundreds or even thousands), crashing could occur? If so, is there any other way to seek out corrupt media files other than your first suggestion?

Bill Buchanan
Buchanan Film Co.

[Baz Leffler]

Bill… it may not necessarily be corrupt media but corrupt audio conform which I have also experienced.

A way to test that out is to close Premiere, rename the audio conform folder and reopen your project. Obviously Premiere will start to conform everything again (maybe an overnight thing for you) but you can still drop stuff onto the timeline while it is conforming. I have found a few problems are solved by re-conforming. btw. have you deleted your Premiere prefs file to gain a ‘fresh start’?

The enemy of the maintenance man is the word ‘intermittant’. Somehow you have to determine something that will (almost) reliably cause the problem. I do that by trying to ‘think’ the way the program is thinking but also having an insiders knowledge of how things work helps as well.

cheers Baz

[Bill Buchanan]

Baz:

No, I haven’t deleted the pref file to start afresh. I forget how to delete the Pref file in 1.5. I will give re-conforming the audio files a shot, though it’s beyond me why a corrupt file–audio or video–would cause an intermittent problem. Thanks again for your help and response.

Bill

[Bill Buchanan]

Nevermind about how to delete the pref file in 1.5. I remembered holding down the shift key, etc.

Bill

[Bill Buchanan]

Matt/Baz:

I deleted, then re-conformed all audio in the project, saved and closed the project, restarted XP, reopened the project, put a clip on the timeline, no crash…then adjusted the length of the clip (by dragging one end of it) and,”Gotcha! A serious error has…” I reopened the project, and as usual no matter how fast I adjust, move, bring more clips, groups of clips, whatever, I can’t make it crash. As I mentioned before, sometimes I can get the crash after re-opening the project, but I don’t recall ever getting it after re-opening the project the third time.

Bill Buchanan
Buchanan Film Co.

[Dkh Lai]

Sorry guys for the delay of testing BMD 5.2
with recommended steps.

I’ve just finished my video and I’ll test it
out tommorow. I’ll keep you guys updated.

Thanks

Regards

Daniel

[Dkh Lai]

Hi Matt & guys,

I’ve just finished my video project which consists
of 3 sequences. Each sequence with the duration of
approx. 45 minutes, APPro DV PAL codec. I’ve captured
2 and half hours of raw footages for this project.

I then unlink everything and started editing with
all the offline clips.

Test 1

I’m editing all the offline clips with a PSD letter box
graphic and APPro titler file. After draging,shifting clips
& slicing clips on timeline, APPRo force to shut
down error occured.

Test 2

I reopen the same project and take away the PSD file and
APPro titler file. I can’t make APPro crash.

Test 3

I reinsert back PSD letter box file into timeline and started
dragging and shifting both offline video clips and PSD file,
I can’t make it crash. Then I added APPro Titler file into
timeline and started editing, after a while of dragging and
shifting APPro titler file the error occurred.

Test 4

I reopen the same project and take away the PSD file and
APPro titler file. I then relink my music file (wav) and
started dragging, shifting clips and slicing. I can’t make
APPro crash.

Test 5

I then relink ONE DV PAL clips (duration 7 minutes) and
started dragging, shifting clips and slicing. after a while
the error occurred.

Please advise

Thanks

Daniel