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Activity Forums Apple Final Cut Pro up-converting 720 to 1080 for HDCAM transfer in FCPX

  • Dave Gage

    July 15, 2013 at 3:03 am

    [Jeff Kirkland] “Or because you’re not doing anything other than an up-res, you could export the 720p version from FCPX, add it to the resolve media pool, conform it and export at 1080p. No need for any messing around with XML, etc.”

    Jeff,

    Along those lines… if you took the 720p Pro Res export from FCPX and then brought it back into FCPX and put it in a 1080p project and then exported it, would it be much worse than doing basically the same thing in Resolve? Is Resolve that much better than FCPX for up-res?

    I have zero experience with Resolve, but am considering downloading the Lite version, if for nothing else, this aspect.

    Thanks,
    Dave

  • Nicholas Zimmerman

    July 15, 2013 at 3:05 am

    https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/davinciresolve/software

    They talk about it in the Optical Reframing section.

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  • Keith Slavin

    July 15, 2013 at 4:56 am

    Hi Jack,

    “but I am wondering if there is a better way to up-convert in FCPX or another software…?”

    Are you not quite happy with your results? if so, you may want to try isovideo’s rescape (a fast, highest-quality GPU-based video scaler available, with natural-looking edge enhancement, absolutely no ringing, etc). If you like, you can contact isovideo, with a short clip for free testing. Rescape is part of our Viarte standarcs-conversion/transcoding server to be released soon.

  • Bernhard G.

    July 16, 2013 at 5:10 pm

    Hi!

    Really interesting. But why does it have to be once again a server-solution,
    for probably at least $ 20.000 I’d guess?

    How are the chances for a simple&affordable drag&drop app for OSX?
    with a reasonable price in the range of FCP-X?

    Best regards,
    Bernhard

  • Keith Slavin

    July 17, 2013 at 7:50 pm

    Hi Bernhard,

    why does it have to be once again a server-solution, for probably at least $ 20.000 I’d guess?

    Since all isovideo’s products run only on linux machines, for the Mac and Windows users we provide a mountable, drag-and drop server.

    Viarte is a GPU accelerated, highly configurable and flexible file-based standards-conversion/transcoding server with unique adjustable motion blur. It enables one to cost effectively streamline their multi-purpose media standards conversions needs, with video quality that can rival or exceed the best in the class, whether in hardware or software.

    To our best knowledge, there is no other drag-and drop standards conversion/transcoding product on the market yet.

    To see our Rescape scaler quality, please check out our “rotating-scaled video” on Youtube:

    “crowd_run 1080p50 converted to 1080p30 with 180 degree simulated motion blur added”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XjPa5VUhCg&feature=em-upload_owner

    If you can, download the 1080p version from there.

    Rescape can be bough separately from Viarte as a Linux tool.

    Best regards,
    Keith

  • Dave Gage

    July 18, 2013 at 9:17 pm

    [Dave Gage]
    Along those lines… if you took the 720p Pro Res export from FCPX and then brought it back into FCPX and put it in a 1080p project and then exported it, would it be much worse than doing basically the same thing in Resolve? Is Resolve that much better than FCPX for up-res?”

    Well, Jack just answered my question here:
    https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/344/22011#22015

    “I up-converted our entire 80 minute feature length production (shot in 720/24p) to 1920×1080 by doing the following:

    duplicate your project but define the resolution as 1920×1080 (as opposed to having it set by the first clip of the project) and do not duplicate by copying over rendered files. This will cause your project to be re-rendered at 1920×1080 in FCPX. I then exported the file using Apple ProRes 422 HQ.

    I then took this file and had it transferred to HDCAM. The film showed at the Hawaii International FIlm Festival and at the Los Angeles Asian Pacific Film Festival in theaters, and while there was a bit of resolution loss, it looked fine to me (of course, it was mu child, why wouldn’t it). I continue to search for better methods. You can download Davinci Resolve Lite for free, that can also do this, but I noticed no difference and indeed thought FCPX did a slightly better job.”

    Has anyone else done this test before and had similar or dis-similar conclusions?

    Thanks,
    Dave

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