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  • Andrew Richards

    June 15, 2012 at 8:20 pm

    [Michael Hadley] “The only real bummer is that you have to max out the RAM upfront and AAPL RAM is much pricier than OWC.”

    If you want to get 16GB from OWC for your non-Retina 2012 MBP (factory options are 2x2GB or 2x4GB only), it’ll cost you $170+shipping.

    The the 16GB RAM option on the Retina MBP is $200. Not exactly a gouge in this context.

    Best,
    Andy

  • Frank Gothmann

    June 15, 2012 at 8:35 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “I am talking about buying ,say, an HP z820. I want to “upgrade the motherboard”, do I call HP and have them send a new one or does it not work like that?

    More broadly, I am trying to take a litmus test as to how much user upgradability is truly useful today in machines that you buy from a vendor, not a bunch of parts you assemble yourself.

    We typically get 3 maybe 4 years out of machines.

    On a side note, what are you sing to mange your SAN, metaSAN or something?

    You could call HP or your VAR.
    But, that’s why I have said I wouldn’t really upgrade the MB on such a machine, you’d also need the different CPUs, Ram etc. so at the end of the day it might cost you as much as a new machine. Bascially because that most expensive pieces in such a machine are the Xeon CPUs.
    But what’s perfectly feasible and even available via the HP online store is going from a single socket machine to an upgraded dual CPU machine.
    Or to faster CPUs.
    Plus of course the usual stuff you can swap and replace: power supply, hot swap drive bays, USB3 and eSata for machines that don’t have it yet, GPUs, additional network cards etc.

    We looked into metaSAN but eventually decided to go the NAS route via Samba, AFP and NFS. I might have to build a second shared storage machine this year and that one might go the Fibre/metaSan route. I haven’t really looked into it as the whole transitioning away from FCP has kept my busy and my nerves thin.

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    “You also agree that you will not use these products for… the development, design, manufacture or production of nuclear, missiles, or chemical or biological weapons.”
    iTunes End User Licence Agreement

  • Jeremy Garchow

    June 15, 2012 at 8:37 pm

    [Frank Gothmann] “But, that’s why I have said I wouldn’t really upgrade the MB on such a machine, you’d also need the different CPUs, Ram etc. so at the end of the day it might cost you as much as a new machine. Bascially because that most expensive pieces in such a machine are the Xeon CPUs.
    But what’s perfectly feasible and even available via the HP online store is going from a single socket machine to an upgraded dual CPU machine.
    Or to faster CPUs.
    Plus of course the usual stuff you can swap and replace: power supply, hot swap drive bays, USB3 and eSata for machines that don’t have it yet, GPUs, additional network cards etc.”

    Thanks.

    [Frank Gothmann] “We looked into metaSAN but eventually decided to go the NAS route via Samba, AFP and NFS. I might have to build a second shared storage machine this year and that one might go the Fibre/metaSan route. I haven’t really looked into it as the whole transitioning away from FCP has kept my busy and my nerves thin.”

    I hear you, there’s enough going on.

  • Michael Hadley

    June 15, 2012 at 9:10 pm

    I agree. Seems pretty reasonable.

    (In the past, the extra memory from Apple was quite a bit more $$. Maybe they are compensating?)

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    June 15, 2012 at 9:16 pm

    hey – out of curiosity, what do you think this is likely to boil down to? where does this actually go?

    windows is going for an australian walkabout with Win8: tablet/RT/ARM/no start menu/Metro first class apps dictats,

    and Apple looks to be progressively hermetically sealing their hardware – barring Cook’s something great in 12-ish months..

    to an extent – what the hell? how does this actually play through?

    https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

  • Jeremy Garchow

    June 15, 2012 at 9:48 pm

    [Aindreas Gallagher] “to an extent – what the hell? how does this actually play through?”

    You mean the answer isn’t clear?

    It’s easy, buy a Jaguar as a wireless iPhone controller and your life’s problems will be solved.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr_Rpk9HR1g

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  • Jeremy Garchow

    June 15, 2012 at 9:54 pm

    Also relevant to this thread:

    https://www.apple.com/support/macbookpro/service/battery/

    Jeremy

  • Andrew Richards

    June 15, 2012 at 10:15 pm

    The price to have the battery replaced on the 13″ & 15″, $129, is the same price as the removable batteries of past MacBooks.

    Best,
    Andy

  • Frank Gothmann

    June 15, 2012 at 10:36 pm

    [Bret Williams] “I thought your 8 core is still a faster machine in all tests I’ve seen available. However, for FCP 7 the iMac would be faster since FCP only utilizes one processor.”

    You’ve said that before in another post and it just isn’t true. FCP7 doesn’t use only one processor. It’s actually among the very best of Apple’s own apps with regards to multi-threadding.

    ——
    “You also agree that you will not use these products for… the development, design, manufacture or production of nuclear, missiles, or chemical or biological weapons.”
    iTunes End User Licence Agreement

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    June 15, 2012 at 11:02 pm

    nice! on the whole, I’d like to think I’m not going to headbutt myself with my MBP.

    look – I’m not here, I only spoke in curiosity to oliver – I only mean that the meme of belligerent transference to windows looks a little dodgy considering where they are headed?
    they seem to be strongly deprecating the traditional windows software ecosystem?

    if there really isn’t a plausible mac exit for the built up video production community – bar crazy big iron moves to Avid stuff – then in terms of small to mid scale facility local repair hardware, we have:

    critically ageing facility MacPros *everywhere* (seriously aren’t they? anyone?), small shop iMacs that run better than most of the facility MacPros, and an email from tim cook, saying that something good might happen in the next 12 months with regard to open hardware.

    It’s nothing new, I’m regurgitating merrily here, but this is a bad bind to some degree. Windows will never replicate the intellectual business concern that lead to Pro Res, FCP, Quicktime, etc. And Apple are very likely to be evermore drawn to closed consumer objects.

    we may be screwed.

    https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

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