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Understanding FCPX under the hood.
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[Walter Soyka] “I’m with you here. I think it’s nice that you can build your own PC, but I’m glad I don’t have to do that.”
Hear, hear!
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[Jeremy Garchow] “It really boils down to being able to swap the GPU, and that’s about it.”
And monitors.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “It really boils down to being able to swap the GPU, and that’s about it.”
Or anything else. Whilst the processor manufacturers keep the same slot, you can just keep substituting a more modern processor, for instance. Intel are notorious for changing more often than necessary, but AMD have I believe kept the same one for a long time now. Upgrade the power supply to run more drives? Just unplug the old and plug in the new. More memory? Just slots in. More drives? Put in as many as the case will hold, usually up to around six.
Personally, I tend to upgrade my main machine in bits. A new GPU maybe up to a year apart from motherboard/processor. The power supply in this particular box has moved on from 350W to 700W as more gear has gone in and GPUs have got more hungry. Back in the low cost unit I was part of at the BBC we did similar stuff.
I just want to point out again that whatever box you buy, inside it’s the same stuff. Mac/pc is just a change of operating system and little else. If you want to buy a pretty and expensive box which you can’t really upgrade, buy an iMac. If you want a Xeon processor – mostly you really don’t any more than you want the Ferrari – go and buy one, but a Core i5 comes a lot cheaper and for normal editing you won’t notice much difference. You can probably put either on the same motherboard.
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“I made this”, as they said at the end of X-Files – not a Ferrari, but I do like making things. A propos of nothing because we seem to be going round and round a bit now. Jeremy – dip your toe, there’s a whole new (cheaper) world waiting…
Bernie
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[Herb Sevush] “2 out of the 4 factors are much more limited on an Imac.”
GPU.
You can connect whatever storage you want with an iMac and go plenty fast from fw400 to Fiber Channel. (But let’s remember, it’s a Mac, you can’t go the fastEST).
You can’t swap your own GPU.
You can get 32GBs of RAM just like everyone else.
You can add monitors to an iMac just like everyone else.
The CPUs are the equivalent, you might be missing a tenth of a GHz. (again, not the fastEST).
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[Jeremy Garchow] “GPU.
You can connect whatever storage you want with an iMac and go plenty fast from fw400 to Fiber Channel. (But let’s remember, it’s a Mac, you can’t go the fastEST).
You can’t swap your own GPU.”
For you its GPU only. For me it’s also PCIe. Most of the motherboards we’re talking about have at least 4 16x PCIe slots plus another 2 to 4 slower slots. Why should I pay more money and get less expansion options? I have 2 raid cards that work best with 8X slots, in addition to GPU and I/O. Firewire may be fast enough for your work, not for me. What happens if I want a Tesla card? When Tbolt can give me multiple 8x slots I’ll consider it, although I’ll be adding the cost of external Tbolt to PCIe adapters when comparing prices.
[Jeremy Garchow] “You can add monitors to an iMac just like everyone else.”
Yes but if you don’t want their monitor your still stuck with hiding it somewhere. I prefer components, I like to buy what I want, not what the vendor wants to sell me, even if it costs more.
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Jeremy Garchow] “You can add monitors to an iMac just like everyone else.”
Seriously? You’re gonna go with that? C’mon. Stop kidding around.
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[Steve Connor] “or the legendary crapness of Nvidia drivers for Mac”
I could have picked any of a number of Mac issues I’ve had over the years.
While I do agree with you regarding the tragic quality of those drivers, I’d point out that Apple themselves sold that GTX285 card.
How is a Mac user learning the hard way to avoid NVIDIA because the drivers are (were?) poor any different than a PC user learning the hard way not to use the XYZ 3000 Deluxe motherboard?
Things like stability are computer issues, not platform issues.
Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
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Behold the lovely snazzle core
Your boxy friend that you’ll adore.
With keyboard gleaming fit to type
Clickety-clack long thru the night
Oh the wondrous shows we’ll make
And satisfying coin we’ll take
From audiences, rapt with glee
content to keep our company.
We’ll shake the rafters- ever more
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[Jeremy Garchow] “You can add monitors to an iMac just like everyone else.”
Seriously? You’re gonna go with that?
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[Chris Harlan] “[Jeremy Garchow] “You can add monitors to an iMac just like everyone else.”
Seriously? You’re gonna go with that?
“It occurs to me that I misunderstood. Perhaps you mean video monitoring as opposed to adding another computer monitor to replace the GLOSSY one. Probably my bad.
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