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Zak Mussig
April 16, 2007 at 3:30 amWalter,
Apple supports Blu Ray… not HD-DVD. Check the websites for each if you like. The Apple logo is among all the other members in the Blu-ray site, and definitely NOT on the HD-DVD site.
DVDSP 4 “supports” HD-DVD not because of any certain loyalty to the format, but because Macs already have red laser burners in them. It’ll let you write HD content to a disc, but it doesn’t support the advanced interactive features of the spec.
Apparently HD optical isn’t “for the masses” yet in the same way that high-end color correction and 3D compositing are. That or they had too many balls in the air and they want to see which format will win (or if their own distrubution model can make both irrelevant before they penetrate the market in any real way.
I would like to see Apple create (and release as an open standard w/ no licensing) a new format w/ all of the interactivity of a DVD, or blu-ray, but in a simple self-contained downloadable file. Like a DVD for your Apple TV. The open standard would be to increase adoption speed… worked for firewire.
Zak
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Rob Chinn
April 16, 2007 at 3:32 amAlfred,
Walter answered the “Yes” part for you. I’m not sure yet how much you can squeeze on there. It’s going to depend on the amount of compression you use. Compressor currently has 3 presets for encoding for HD DVD – 2 of them are H.264 based, while the other is MPEG-2 based, they are all at different bitrates.
I created a HD DVD a couple weeks ago to try it out. I just used a minute of footage, but everything worked great. I made one disc for 1080, and one for 720. Both ended up looking great on the 52″ Samsung 1080p LCD we were testing them on. I will tell you not to bother using the H.264, 6.75 Mbps encoder though – it was junk. I’m planning to do more tests soon using a dual layer DVD-R disc, which should allow you to get more content, but I’m not positive if the HD DVD players will support it yet – hence the reason I’m testing.
As for your question about having a control port for syncing – I doubt they do. I didn’t specifically check, but I would be willing to bet they don’t.
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Rob Chinn
April 16, 2007 at 3:36 amzrb,
The menus I created worked just fine. I just used a couple of the templates that Apple includes in DVDSP 4.
I think you are correct that it may not be able to use the full functionality of the HD DVD spec, but I’m not postitive that all the players support it yet either. I know there was a story out last week that said the current Blu-ray players don’t support the full interactivity spec.
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Walter Biscardi
April 16, 2007 at 3:36 am[Zak Mussig] “Apple supports Blu Ray… not HD-DVD. Check the websites for each if you like. The Apple logo is among all the other members in the Blu-ray site, and definitely NOT on the HD-DVD site.”
Interesting, I was always under the impression they were on the HD-DVD side since that’s the only format DVD SP supports. Weird.
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April 16, 2007 at 3:40 am[Rob Chinn] “The menus I created worked just fine. I just used a couple of the templates that Apple includes in DVDSP 4.”
Thats good to know I, it was only what I heard, perhaps it was the last update of DVD SP that improved it.
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Zak Mussig
April 16, 2007 at 3:46 amApple will be on the winning side… just not necessarily when the death blow is dealt to the other format. You support what sells, so “Optical Disc Studio Pro 1.0” (what do you call it when DVDs are dead?) may support both formats, or just whoever wins by the time they really get into development.
What will be interesting is to see what, if anything, Apple can do to bring the interactive features (javascript support on HD-DVD and Java on Blu-ray) to video editors and content creators without a programming background.Zak
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Supervideo
April 16, 2007 at 6:45 amyou can not author a HD disc in DVD studio 4 ,,,As far as menus go .
You can only make HD video straight play . -
Alfred Guzzetti
April 16, 2007 at 12:15 pmRobb,
Many thanks for this helpful info. I need to fit 25-30 minutes on a disk and to have a simple menu with a single play command so that the program can be started by hitting “play” on the remote. I’ll be very curious to hear if these things are possible with a level of compression that makes the image look good.
ALFRED
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Rob Chinn
April 16, 2007 at 1:14 pmsupervideo,
Not true. I was able to use one of the templates built into DVDSP, with buttons for 3 different tracks. On insert into a Toshiba HD DVD player, an animation played leading into the menu. Each button in the menu contained motion video as well. I was able to navigate between the three buttons using the remote, and select any of the three. No problems.
That said, I did not try multiple menus, but I don’t see why it wouldn’t work. I will be doing one in a few weeks, so I will let you know.
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Rob Chinn
April 16, 2007 at 1:20 pmAlfred,
No problem. The amount you can squeeze onto a DVD will vary greatly, depending on your video and the compression you choose. I’d recommend you play around with it. Compressor makes it easy to create a number of different MPEG or H.264 all at once.
There is probably a sweet spot between the 10.5 Mbps H.264 codec and the 19.0 Mbps MPEG-2 codec, for getting the most nice looking video onto a DVD. I’ve only used the presets so far, so I can’t answer that for sure.
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