Two Vegas Gurus Walk Into A Bar….

[Ken Vaughn]

Sorry John, I didn’t mean to get you. After all, you’ve forgotten more about all of this than I’ll ever know most likely…

I should have mentioned it earlier but I did try the Sony AVC format. Here are the results;

Frame Width: 800
Frame Height: 600
Date Rate: 820kbps
Total Bitrate: 949kbps
File Size: 17.7MB

The interesting thing about the Sony AVC file on playback is that while the gradient background held up well with a minimum of banding (a problem with gradients in any digital file from my experience) and few artifacts as the object revolves, the object itself seems blurry and much less sharp than other options. I’m going to keep experimenting to see what yields the best results.

What will life be like when all the pipes are fat and available bandwidth is never a consideration?

Ken

PS Is VASST planning to roll out a new version of “Absolute Training for Vegas + DVD Pro Bundle”? I notice some of the individual disks are discontinued.

[Ken Vaughn]

Sorry John, I didn’t mean to get you. After all, you’ve forgotten more about all of this than I’ll ever know most likely…

I should have mentioned it earlier but I did try the Sony AVC format. Here are the results;

Frame Width: 800
Frame Height: 600
Date Rate: 820kbps
Total Bitrate: 949kbps
File Size: 17.7MB

The interesting thing about the Sony AVC file on playback is that while the gradient background held up well with a minimum of banding (a problem with gradients in any digital file from my experience) and few artifacts as the object revolves, the object itself seems blurry and much less sharp than other options. I’m going to keep experimenting to see what yields the best results.

What will life be like when all the pipes are fat and available bandwidth is never a consideration?

Ken

PS Is VASST planning to roll out a new version of “Absolute Training for Vegas + DVD Pro Bundle”? I notice some of the individual disks are discontinued.

[Ken Vaughn]

Pardon the dupe, not sure how I pulled it off…

Ken

Another unscheduled off-world activation…

[John Rofrano]

[Ken Vaughn] “What will life be like when all the pipes are fat and available bandwidth is never a consideration?”

It will have less compression artifacts. 😉

[Ken Vaughn] “PS Is VASST planning to roll out a new version of “Absolute Training for Vegas + DVD Pro Bundle”? I notice some of the individual disks are discontinued.”

I believe that VASST is moving to an on-line model of download what you want now and only pay for what you need instead of shipping shiny discs that attempt to show HD functionality in an SD format. lol… in short, DVD’s have become a limited medium in an world of HD content so we’re slowly shifting our delivery medium. The new training will most likely be downloadable content and not DVD’s.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com

[Ken Vaughn]

I have no problem with downloadable content, storage space is getting to the point price-wise that cost isn’t an issue (this is a boon to digital pack rats like me). What I’m not interested in is paying for CBT type content that is accessible only online. I ran across this recently, a rather pricey training program that is online only. No thanks.

Now that I’m up to speed with Vegas I want to revisit rendering with DVD creation in mind. Earlier in this thread you said;

“Render your video using Sony AVC using one of the “Internet..” templates. You can modify the bitrate to get the filesize you are after. This codec gives really good quality at low bit-rates and can be played by both PC and Mac users. It’s also a good format to distribute on a data DVD to be watched on their computer. If you want the DVD to be watched on a DVD player then you need to author a DVD using MPEG2 video.”

Thanks again,

Ken

[Ken Vaughn]

I tried to embed that screen shot you did earlier, not working for some reason. Anyway, any refinements to the burn to disk settings?

Ken

[John Rofrano]

[Ken Vaughn] “Anyway, any refinements to the burn to disk settings?”

Do you mean setting to create a DVD?

Go to File | Render As… and select MainConcept MPEG-2 with the DVD Architect NTSC Widescreen video stream template for 16:9. Then render your audio as Dolby Digital AC-3 Pro using the Stereo DVD template. If you give both files the same name just with different extensions, then DVD Architect will know that the files go together. Finally just author your DVD in DVD Architect.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com

[Ken Vaughn]

Thanks John, I may not “get fancy” with this short vid, just burn it to a disk as a data file and add some other technical files etc. I’ve been watching a lot of tutorials etc. and the more I learn about V11 the more I want to do an expanded, more in depth production as the subject of this short vid is just one part of what we do. And with seeing what certain plugins can do like Scattershot it’s tempting to use these tools also.

Playback for this vid when embedded in a page has proven hard to nail down. I thought I had it but I heard from a prospect this morning that even after it’s apparently downloaded the playback is stuttering.

So I think I’m going to go back to the designer and see what other options there are for rendering the original animations from Inventor and get smaller dimensions and possibly do away with the gradient background.

Thanks for all the help you and others have given in this thread, it has not only helped with the task at hand but given me inspiration to learn more about using Vegas to best advantage.

I hope you and yours have a safe, happy holiday season.

Ken

[John Rofrano]

[Ken Vaughn] “So I think I’m going to go back to the designer and see what other options there are for rendering the original animations from Inventor and get smaller dimensions and possibly do away with the gradient background.”

That’s an important point not to be glossed over. If you are creating media for the web which, as you have seen, places bandwidth constraints and uses a lot of compression, then you need to consider that in your media creation. Solid colors will compress much, much better than detailed patterns and a gradient is the worst possible background to use because it is constantly changing color from one end to the other. Ask him to render on a white background (or any solid color) and you should see an improvement in your web video once it’s compressed.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com