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  • Shawn Miller

    June 27, 2012 at 8:06 pm

    [Walter Soyka] “There are 10 episodes of Game of Thrones in a season. At $3 per episode, that’s $30 for the season. HBO costs what, $17/mo? The 2.5 months to cover GoT would then be $42, but that fee also covers everything else that airs on HBO (and neither fee accounts for revenue sharing).”

    I agree, if an individual only wants to see GoT, this makes sense… but if they want GoT, Nurse Jackie, Spartacus and Walking Dead, it will start to add up.

    [Walter Soyka]
    …but there’s a lot of customer resistance to the status quo.”

    Very true, and I think with good reason. It’s an interesting question though… how much value does all of this programming have to the average user, and can all (or most of it) be delivered in a way that benefits all parties? 🙂

    Shawn

  • Walter Soyka

    June 27, 2012 at 8:11 pm

    [McCoy] Dammit Andrew, I’m a designer, not a TV executive. [/McCoy]

    But you are right. I don’t know if HBO can or should dump their business model any time soon.

    I do know that distributors have, in recent history, resisted changes to their business models that ultimately provided new sources of revenue (like home video or music downloads). They forget that the customers pay the bills and therefore have a say in how the market works, too.

    Walter Soyka
    Principal & Designer at Keen Live
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
    RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
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  • Shawn Miller

    June 27, 2012 at 8:17 pm

    [tony west] “Also the only TV you can buy is 1080

    This TV would have a higher res than that.”

    Why is that, barely anyone is broadcasting @ 1080… and of those, who is streaming at anything above 1 or 2Mbps?

    Shawn

  • Andrew Kimery

    June 27, 2012 at 8:25 pm

    [Walter Soyka] “I do know that distributors have, in recent history, resisted changes to their business models that ultimately provided new sources of revenue (like home video or music downloads). They forget that the customers pay the bills and therefore have a say in how the market works, too.”

    As cable and TV contracts start expiring in the coming years I think that’s when we will see things get really interesting. I mean, I’m sure HBO would love to sell HBO Go on the side for a monthly fee to people that don’t have cable subscriptions but obviously the likes of TW and Comcast wouldn’t be keen on that idea. And, honestly, I wouldn’t be either if I paid top dollar for the right to carry HBO’s programing. Maybe a future contract will lower HBO’s carriage fee in exchange for HBO being able to sign up it’s own subscribers via HBO Go directly.

    Being an Ameican football fan I’m curious to see what happens in 9yrs when the freshly signed TV contractions are set to expire. Will the NFL start venturing out on its by own streaming games or will the billions of dollars they get from ESPN, FOX, CBS & NBC keep them tied, in some way, to those broadcasters? Will ESPN, FOX & CBS follow NBCs lead and simulcast games on line?

    I think traditional TV distribution has peaked, but it’s not going away anytime soon, IMO. For example, in the US, legal music download sales toped CD sales for the first time ever last year (IIRC 51% to 49%) and this is with CD sales being in a free fall for the better part of a decade.

  • Richard Cardonna

    June 27, 2012 at 8:50 pm

    Ii am sure that what ever apple wants is not just to please you with a viewing experience. they want your data,what you see; how much you see. that to them is much more imortant. data collecting is the game.

  • Tony West

    June 27, 2012 at 9:29 pm

    “This TV would have a higher res than that.”

    Why is that, barely anyone is broadcasting @ 1080… and of those, who is streaming at anything above 1 or 2Mbps?

    Correct, accept for the 8k in Japan that was pointed out.

    I don’t see them broadcasting it to you right now. I see it more like loading hi res stuff from a drive or something like that.

    Just like people go to the red box to get a ‘sd’ dvd, you could pick up a flash drive with super hi res
    content.

    When you say right now you are already done. These people don’t think about right now.

    They think about 10 years down the line.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    June 27, 2012 at 9:43 pm

    [tony west] “They think about 10 years down the line.”

    Timescapes the movie is available at Retina res (as well as 4k).

    Sure, it’s just one movie, but there’s an inherent advantage to internet media watching as the pixel size and frame rate are not bound by SMPTE guides.

    https://timescapes.org/products/default.aspx

    Jeremy

  • Timothy Auld

    June 27, 2012 at 9:58 pm

    SMPTE evolved out of trying to make sense of a long ago wild west situation much like the one we have now. I don’t think they are trying to impose any standards (or really ever thought they could) on anyone. And I’m not saying that’s what you meant, Jeremy. I just feel that SMPTE’s motives are very often misunderstood.

    Tim

  • Jeremy Garchow

    June 27, 2012 at 10:09 pm

    [TImothy Auld] “SMPTE evolved out of trying to make sense of a long ago wild west situation much like the one we have now. I don’t think they are trying to impose any standards (or really ever thought they could) on anyone. And I’m not saying that’s what you meant, Jeremy. I just feel that SMPTE’s motives are very often misunderstood.”

    I am not blaming SMPTE for anything. There are good reasons to have standards and I appreciate them.

    I said SMPTE as it was much shorter than to write every “TV” standard available in NTSC/PAL. 🙂

    But if you want to release your movie in 4k to the internet (or retina display @ 48 fps for whatever reason) you couldn’t do that on TV today.

  • Timothy Auld

    June 27, 2012 at 10:13 pm

    No, you could not. But that’s more due to broadcasters than SMPTE. Nonetheless I remove you from the SMPTE enemies list in perpetuity (if we could only find the damned thing.)

    Tim

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