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Chris Harlan replied 13 years, 10 months ago 21 Members · 76 Replies
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Tony West
June 27, 2012 at 3:26 pmI don’t know how it’s going to look but it makes sense for them to complete the chain.
Look, they already put out a super high res laptop. They didn’t tell consumers not to buy it because it’s
just for folks working on Red Epic shoots. They want everybody to buy that laptop even though right now must people can’t really make full use of a screen like that.
I was thinking about it, and they wouldn’t just make it for editors like us. It would need to be something that they could sell to the masses AND us.
The TV would have to be able to show over the air broadcast also. Not just the exclusive hi res content that apple was able to acquire deliver.
Mobil is cool, but when I watch a movie and have people over I want it on my big screen with surround sound.
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Chris Harlan
June 27, 2012 at 3:30 pm[Bret Williams] “I don’t see a retina TV at all. But I do see a decently priced TV that will work with the digital hub seamlessly, as well as with the phones, internet, etc. much better than any other TV out there.
I have a nice 42” Vizio with all the internet apps built in. But when I got an AppleTV and hooked it up, I never again touched the clumsy interface of the Vizio. It was night and day. Throw in that EVERY aspect of the TV will be immensely more thought out, including a remote, and you’ve got a winner I think.
“I agree. No Retina TV. Not even remotely likely. Or even currently plausible at 55″. And, what would anyone do with that? A screen that large is meant to be seen from a distance, so why would a Retina screen matter?
But yeah, the newest iteration of the AppleTV works really well. Though I personally like the idea of keeping the device separate from my TV, I can see a more advanced version of it being implemented in a TV. If they do, though, I hope they keep selling the box as well, as that would be my choice.
I DO wonder though; other than having less clutter–which admittedly is a big deal for some folk–what the value would be over the current version.
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Gary Huff
June 27, 2012 at 3:37 pm[Bret Williams] “I have a nice 42″ Vizio with all the internet apps built in. But when I got an AppleTV and hooked it up, I never again touched the clumsy interface of the Vizio.”
That’s great. So would you sell or give away that Vizio for a 42″ Apple TV that’s only different because it has the AppleTV interface built-in?
Apple will probably only have one size of TV, given their history. Will that be the size people want (i.e. 42″ was fine in an apartment, but seems pretty small in a house now to me)? Also, the TV will probably be over $1000. Is that worth buying when you probably already have a perfectly good TV with a $99 AppleTV device?
What will Apple do with a TV, aside from incorporating their $99 set top box into it, that will be worth the premium they will charge for it?
Frankly, I think the idea of building “apps” and so on into TVs is totally dumb. TVs should be “dumb terminals” with which you hook up devices to them, giving way, eventually, to a standard that allows you to “throw” media to it from any computer.
I think these rumors are just as ludicrous as those about Apple releasing a 7″ iPad.
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Roger Suski
June 27, 2012 at 4:03 pmNot sure the higher resolution would be appreciated in most consumer settings — viewing distance too far from screen, diminishing returns, rule of thirds on screen size vs. viewing distance. And – the market doesn’t seem to be there – consumers willing to give up quality for immediacy and price.
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Gary Huff
June 27, 2012 at 4:05 pm[tony west] ”
oh I’m sure there were people that said they shouldn’t make a phone.”The smartphone market was just evolving and there was a window of opportunity for something new and revolutionary. Same with the iPad, Apple pretty much started the tablet market.
Right now, you can walk into your Best Buy and purchase any number of sizes and technologies (LCD/Plasma/LED) and features (3D, 240Hz, ect). and buy a $99 Apple TV to have that interface if you so desire.
What is the market for a 42″ $1200 TV that has the $99 Apple TV interface built-in?
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Gary Huff
June 27, 2012 at 4:24 pm[tony west] “They want everybody to buy that laptop even though right now must people can’t really make full use of a screen like that.”
Even if Apple does release a TV, I guarantee you it won’t be over 1080p. What’s the point? iTunes just recently moved to 1080 content, and why would Apple sell you a 5K TV now when they can just as easily sell you a 1080p now and then a 5k later?
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Gary Huff
June 27, 2012 at 4:25 pm[Chris Harlan] “I DO wonder though; other than having less clutter–which admittedly is a big deal for some folk–what the value would be over the current version.”
Having a shiny Apple logo at the base on the front?
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Clint Wardlow
June 27, 2012 at 4:58 pm[tony west] “oh I’m sure there were people that said they shouldn’t make a phone.
they should just stick with computers.”
The big difference was that smart phones and pad devices had very little market share at the time they dipped in, so the iphone and ipad were poised to develope a market that hadn’t reach its potential.
With TV sets the market is saturated. It would be a much tougher market share for Apple to penetrate. I don’t really see them committing a large portion of their developement resources into an arena in which they would have to really slug it out to make monster profits.
However, if Apple’s goal is to dominate every form of electronic entertainment delivery like some sort of media Illuminati, they might give it a try.
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Chris Harlan
June 27, 2012 at 4:58 pm[Gary Huff] “Frankly, I think the idea of building “apps” and so on into TVs is totally dumb. TVs should be “dumb terminals” with which you hook up devices to them, giving way, eventually, to a standard that allows you to “throw” media to it from any computer.
“I agree with you about this, and have never been attracted to the whole Smart TV thing, but other people seem to think there is a there there. I have never seen the value, myself, but going on Jobs comments just prior to his death, I DO think Apple has something in mind.
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Gary Huff
June 27, 2012 at 5:02 pm[Clint Wardlow] “However, if Apple’s goal is to dominate every form of electronic entertainment delivery like some sort of media Illuminati, they might give it a try.”
Let’s also not begin to give Apple “superhuman” corporation powers. They can easily fall as flat on their face as anyone else. If Apple does wade into the TV ocean, it doesn’t mean they are going to automatically rule the market.
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