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Trouble with 8-bit uncompressed
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[Graeme Nattress] “Sure, but you can get the same benefits from just doing afinal render to uncompressed at the end, rather than editing uncompressed.”
Very true.
[Graeme Nattress] “Also, you’d better be mastering to a really good pro HD tape format to see the benefit :-)”
HDCAM SR, anyone? ;P
Of course, then the only place you could actually see your pristine content displayed would be on a computer monitor or in a high end post suite… 😉
It’s kind of funny how carried away people can get when talking about pie-in-the-sky formats (HD is great! No, we need 2K! No, we MUST have 4K!) when the average HDTV broadcast looks like crap because of the compression artifacts… People are running out and buying big plasma and LCD screens right and left but there’s no content out there to really take advantage of them yet. Even Blu-Ray and HD-DVD can’t hold a candle to an uncompressed 10-bit HD source. Pity that most people will never get the chance to see one.
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[Graeme Nattress] “Going to DVCProHD will reduce picture quality, not improve it”
Not in our experience using the Kona 3 to convert to DVCPro HD on the way in. Picture looks identical to the original HDV content. I’m sure if we go way in on the scopes and blow up the image 200% or larger we’ll see the difference, but Quality Control at the network loves what they are seeing from our workflow.
I’m using DVCPro HD because it’s a faster workflow on our system than HDV in terms of RT features.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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Well, I see nasties on DVCProHD au natrel, before you do anything to it, never mind rendering to it, but you’ve got to remember I’ve now got 4k eyes and they squew my judgement 🙂
As with all production, there’s practical reality and that often wins. However, in my mind HDV is bad enough to start with without subjecting it to further lossy compression, the first task of which is to remove 12% of the horizontal resolution, something you don’t have much of to begin with….
Graeme
– http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects and Standards Conversion for FCP
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[Graeme Nattress] “However, in my mind HDV is bad enough to start with without subjecting it to further lossy compression, the first task of which is to remove 12% of the horizontal resolution, something you don’t have much of to begin with….”
I’ll agree with you on the quality. I have never been a fan of HDV and from what I’m seeing here, when it looks good, it looks really good. When it looks bad, it’s really bad and there isn’t much room in between.
The Producer of this series has decided to purchase an HDX-900 so we’ll be dumping the HDV workflow very shortly which makes me a very happy camper.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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However, on the brighter side, the 1080i broadcasts on DirecTV using the new MPEG-4 codecs are looking MUCH better than the mpeg-2 junk that’s out there now
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[Alan Okey] “Even Blu-Ray and HD-DVD can’t hold a candle to an uncompressed 10-bit HD source.”
I don’t know that I would go that far.
HD-DVD is quite capable of a stunning picture that blows away the image of Over the air HD.
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