Triple Head Display w/PPRO 2.0?

[Tim Kolb]

[Steve Freebairn] “I’m curious if there is any documentation about the quadro’s helping AE more than a “gamer card?” Although I did look up the 3450 and it does have Open Gl 2.0 support, the reason why I ask is because my 7800gt does better at acceleration than the fx3400 that I use at work”

“Gamer card” was probably a bit flip on my part….but that card is definitely targeted at consumer applications.

PNY’s take on it is here: https://www.pny.com/support/downloads/quadro_geforce.pdf

Primarily amount of RAM, the ability to display overlay from Open GL, and many more clip planes (multiple, overlapping windows) probably help me the most, those who do tons of 3d work can benefit the most of course…but the support for AE is very helpful for me.

…but I don’t have any machines with consumer cards in them to compare either…are you positive that you have the most up-to-date driver set for your 3400?

That seems strange, the card you have at home is a newer model than a 3400 I assume? (I’m not terribly savvy about the GeForce cards).

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[Steve Freebairn]

yeah I’ve got the newest drivers, but you’re also right the 7800gt is newer than the 3400. I’m not quite sure exactly what clipping plane windows are. My interpretation originally was that the quadro helped mainly in 3d apps because of tool windows and such that would overlap the main “comp” window, but since AE 7.0 doesn’t really have overlapping windows, will a quadro help? Can you enlighten me?

[Stephen Gradin]

Will a second video card even fit in with the FX 3450? Seems like that card is thick and may take up 2 slots. Please let me know whether or not this is true?

[Tim Kolb]

[Steve Freebairn] “My interpretation originally was that the quadro helped mainly in 3d apps because of tool windows and such that would overlap the main “comp” window, but since AE 7.0 doesn’t really have overlapping windows, will a quadro help? Can you enlighten me?”

It does/did help with that…keep in mind that multiple open apps is still overlapping windows…but the GPU accelerated preview and render (which speeds most of the “organic” effects like blurs and lighting, which happen in Premiere Pro and AE) are definitely pluses.

nVidia’s official word on it is here:
https://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_28867.html

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[Tim Kolb]

[StephenB] ”
Will a second video card even fit in with the FX 3450? Seems like that card is thick and may take up 2 slots. Please let me know whether or not this is true?”

That IS a good point…these don’t just drop into any and every machine.

I have enough space to get it all in my computer cabinet, but I have a rather large workstation chassis with 2 PCIe slots. The Matrox Parhelia APVe does give you three heads on one card…but not the same boost in performance.

…its all in what makes the most sense for your situation.

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[Carlitos]

.= After effects 7.0 and (PPro 2.0) supports Geforce (7800 and even 6800) videocards, even in high fidelity mode:

https://www.adobe.com/products/aftereffects/opengl.html

I personally use a 6800 w/ 256 MB ram heavily for Avid Xpress, Premiere, After Effects and Combustion (latter versions), no problems or limitations so far, with the only exception of slower Open GL previews in Combustion 4 (which I rarely have used and it’s not a must need).

Of course, a quadro is a better card for graphic work, but not a conditon “sine qua non”.

[Tim Kolb]

[Carl] “After effects 7.0 and (PPro 2.0) supports Geforce (7800 and even 6800) videocards, even in high fidelity mode:”

Well, keep in mind that the Matrox Parhelia “supports” After Effects on that chart too because of it’s WYSIWYG overlay feature, but obviously not the same GFX acceleration. I’m imagining that “support” probably means different things in terms of GeForce cards and Quadro cards as well.

I’m not trying to say that they’re no good at all certainly…the question was what the differences are. Some of these differences may not be important to every user…but some are more significant than it might seem at first glance.

PNY’s position is that the Quadro family of cards has certain features/options available that aren’t available in a GeForce card.

Hardware anti-aliased lines
Hardware stippled lines
Hardware Open GL overlay (video window, not just preview render)
8 Clip Planes
16x Max scene anti-aliasing (GeForce=8x)
Hardware 3d window clipping
Hardware 2 sided lighting
QUXGA display res (3840×2400)
Dual-link DVI
Framesync and/or Genlock
…and a bunch of other things that are very 3d oriented and therefore not something I’m terribly knowledgeable about.

Again, I’m not saying the GeForce cards are no good, however I think that people assume that they’re somehow “beating the system” with a GeForce card instead of a Quadro, and that’s really not the case.

…that’s really my only point.

I’m certainly not criticizing anyone’s choices or saying they’re not being truthful if they have a Geforce card and are experiencing benefits…

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