transfer veg tracks

[Steve Rhoden]

Got things running smoothy?
Seems you were over complicating the process….

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[Brian Langtry]

Hi Laszlo,
That sounds very helpful and you may have identified where I am going wrong. When I saved the file (all project media) I saved it internally on the PC I was using 12 on (the file did have all the media project within it) THEN transferred it to the flash drive and subsequently onto new machine.
Do you think the fact that I’d didn’t save direct to flash drive was the problem even though the file I saved was a complete 9GB project media albeit initially saved on my Vegas 12 host PC? I’ll try what you suggest but, as the project files were all there I still cannot understand why they loaded as a 2 track master and not the complete project file. Would welcome your feedback from above.
Many many thanks for the detailed info.
I don’t suppose you are aware of any expert help that uses’ team viewer’ or ‘zoho’ to solve these issues? Quite happy to pay but cannot find anywhere on net offering such services. I have used such an expert for my audio recording set up from time to time and found them invaluable. Sorry to consume so much of creative cow time but I have dates coming up to show the film and need to get it sorted.

[László Kovács]

Hi,

I just detailed Steve’s suggestion ☺

[brian langtry] “the fact that I’d didn’t save direct to flash drive was the problem”

I don’t think so. The key is that you had everything for your project in one folder, so that’s easier to copy.
Wether you create that folder on an external drive, or internal and copy it just afterwards, does not matter.

[brian langtry] “why they loaded as a 2 track master”

How do you open?
Do you open it via file/open, or just drag the .veg to the timeline (thus creating a nested .veg)?

Best regards

László Kovács

[Brian Langtry]

Hi Laszlo,
I’ve tried double clicking on the file which I believe should auto open Vegas 14 and and the file data in full track mode just as does my recording software It only loads a 2 track version?
I only purchased the vegas 14 a week ago – the DVD would not load automatically and eventually I took to my local gurus PC shop who copied and pasted the files into my PC. Do you think this is a faulty DVD and copying has not properly embedded everything?
I have the saved vegas 12 project file on the new PC but haven’t tried dropping it onto an open version of the software .Will try this tonight and mail you with results.

[László Kovács]

Hi Brian,

I just thought you may drag and drop the veg file to the empty timeline. If you do so, that means you add to an empty project that veg file as a nested project. This results exactly in 1 audio and 1 video track, this is not what you want. You need to open the veg file, so you’ll see all the tracks, events, envelopes, etc.

So start Vegas, navigate to file/open, and browse for the .veg file. And open it.
By default if you doubleclick a .veg file, a new instance of Vegas starts up, and opens that .veg file, just like yu would do it via file/open. But as you visited some Gurus, so who knows what exactly happens? I learned not to trust gurus, but different country, different habits. ☺
What if you start Vegas alone, and open the .veg file via file/open?
What if you open that saved-for-transfer project on your old PC? Do you get what you expect, or just the 2 tracks?

What DVD are you referring to? Vegas install DVD? If you bought Vegas boxed, you may want to download a more recent build (now I’m on build 211 of Vegas).

Best regards

László Kovács

[Brian Langtry]

Hi Laszlo
The 2 track file opens with 2 error messages both of which are on the vegas 12 project – to do with cannot find files but the timeline has these files on it, it plays, and does appear on the 2 track.

the error message box reads ” A nested project was not found F/pictures/coventry canal 5veg whole project /20140417000433 m2ts” this is the name of the file I am trying to open?

If I open the copied veg file it has all the data on it but not in an order of the film as far as I can tell. Are you saying to open the file with all various bits showing and double click? wouldn’t this just load the file I was clicking on?
I did get the full track version just on one occasion but this was momentary – as the files started to build it shut the computer down which happened once earlier when I was trying to load.
You mention downloading – are you referring to updates? This is something I have not done as I only bought the DVD a week ago. I’ll have a look tomorrow for updates presumably on the Magix website. In the meantime how sure can I be that this is not a Disc problem? I feel very guilty about consuming your time but I am way out of my comfort zone here. The laptop I’m transferring to hosts my recording software ( an MSI £1700 model barely 6 months old ) and gives no indication of problems with that.

[László Kovács]

Hi Brian,

The most important:
don’t feel guilty! All people here try to help on voluntary basis.
That is the link I could download my Vegas 14:
https://dl03.magix.net/vegaspro14.exe
I think it is the same for you too, just use your own serial to activate.
Reading your post I start to beleive, something weird is happening there.
Anyway, do you have a nested project in your original V12 project on your old PC?
Do you see any chance to install V14 on your old PC? (Just to see how it will open your original project there – don’t save with it!) Non need to activate there, the trial is good enough…

Best regards

László Kovács

[Brian Langtry]

hi Laszlo,
I’ll uninstall and re install via download.
I tried again last night and its just crashing the system – sometimes a message pops up “low on memory” and I’m assuming this is ram memory although again I’m out of my depth at this level . The MSI laptop has 16 gb ram and the file I’m trying to load is 10.7gb so I’m guessing its something to do with this?
would you mind if i contact you after the downloading? I’ve tried to get into Magix support and to email a tech query but on the ‘contact’ site it doesn’t list vegas 14 only 12/13 and won’t let me proceed. cannot get telephone support as far as I can see so its fair to say I’m pretty unimpressed with the whole set up apart from your good selves.
I know you can reset vegas 12 using control + something. I can’t find what the ‘something’ is. Can you advise please just in case and I’ll make a note.
thanks for your interest.

[László Kovács]

Hi Brian,

[brian langtry] “I know you can reset vegas 12 using control + something.”

Hold ctrl-shift while Vegas is starting, and it will prompt for reset everything to factory default. That’s true for all Vegas versions I know.
An earlyer version of Vegas14 had an issue, kind of memory leak, which resulted in a crash with HDV footages.
Do you have HDV material in your project?
See:
https://forums.creativecow.net/thread/24/1013982

Magix support is no something I would call responsive. They respond within a week or so… ☹
So your best bet is to get support from this forum.

Best regards

László Kovács

[Brian Langtry]

Hi Laszlo,
Thank you for reply. I do still have from previous attempts a track loaded on a timeline which I assume is as you describe ‘nesting’.
Will just deleting this from the timeline get rid of the nested track or do I have to do it another way?

I have now reinstalled 14 from a download as you suggest but am still getting the same 2 track transfer. When I open the file I’m trying to load I see lots of clip footage and audio but am I supposed to see ‘track events’ and ‘envelopes’ – I’m not sure I’d recognise these so what would I look for? The thinking behind this is ‘is there a fault on this ‘save as and copy all media?
Thank you for your patience and assistance.