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Transfer folder/directory structure from Windows to AVID
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[Ismael de Diego] “They will hire the data manager”
Assistant Editor. It’s an important distinction. You need to hire an assistant editor skilled in Avid and tapeless workflows, AMA and transcoding…planning things for the online. How will this be onlined? IN Avid or in Resolve? Do you want the media to come in full resolution, or lower resolution to save drive space and you’ll upres later? These are all questions that you, or the company, needs to know the answers to so that the Assistant can do things properly.
A SKILLED Assistant. If you skimp on this, and things are done wrong, then an online editor fixing it later will cost more.
[Ismael de Diego] “Is just meta-data we are talking after all, no codification or programming involved.”
It really isn’t. Metadata is what is stored in the media that you capture. The file structure and how you bring footage into Avid…that’s all part of it’s programming. If the AE can automate this…then they are worth their weight in gold.
Shane
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[Glenn Sakatch] “You can build folders in Avid by creating them in Windows Explorer. You don’t have to make the folders from within Avid”
How exactly do you go about this, Glenn?
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I wonder what happens if I copy the empty folders into the project folder in Windows Explorer, will it then show those folders inside AVID ? Can’t wait to try that tomorrow, that would be a fantastic feature.
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The folders will be there, but will they appear? If there’s media in those folders…camera originals…those won’t show up. Those need to be imported into BINS….and those bins go inside those folders.
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Yes, folders made in the project directory in the Finder/Windows Explorer will appear in the Avid Project Window. This will not help you, as folders have a different function in Avid than in FCP/Premiere. Folders in FCP/Premiere are the functional equivalent of Bins. They contain clips. Bins are also not discrete files in FCP/Premiere. This is not the case in Avid at all. Bins are discrete files and can be placed inside folders. Clips cannot appear in folders all by themselves. They must live in bins. Clips cannot get into bins unless you create the bins in Avid then AMA link to them or ingest them in other methods (import, capture, etc.).
I’m a longtime Avid user and it’s my favorite NLE to edit with, but it’s not for every job. Sounds like this one is more suited to Premiere Pro CC.
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Jeez man, you don’t seem to understand the question at all, still struggling to keep on the subject after almost 5 posts. NO CLIPS, NO MEDIA, just interested in folders metadata.
And for your info, folder structure is metadata, here are some definitions for you.“Metadata is data that describes other data. Meta is a prefix that in most information technology usages means “an underlying definition or description.” Metadata summarizes basic information about data, which can make finding and working with particular instances of data easier.”
If you don’t know the answer one good choice is to remain silent.
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This is really really helpful, thank a lot John!!
Bin can be inside folders right ? And folders can be organized into an folder structure, so if I have a bin inside each folder I retain the organization by date/event and keep inside the boundaries of AVID.
Is a feature documentary, footage come by the ton and from a cell phone to 35mm, it’s almost always like that. Having 200 bins with 100 clips each, scattered in the project Window doesn’t look practical.
Does AVID have an aproach for organizing bins other than folders ? It would be great is there exists a tool for such a thing
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By the way, this is how I got the empty copy of the folder structure.
In Windows go to command and type or copy:robocopy “C:\Your Folder” “C:\New Folder” /e /xf *
/t = Copies the subdirectory structure, but not the files
/e = Copies subdirectories, including any empty onesThat way you are sure not files got into those folders, was a pretty simple thing to do after all
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Thinking about this more….
What I am gleaning here is that you are more interested in replicating the folder structure as a means of visually organizing the project, not really related to how Avid is internally managing the media.
Since bins are discrete files within the file system, you could copy the names of subfolders to bin file names…so you could have a folder show up in the Avid Project window, then have bins inside it that have the names of the subfolders within that folder. The result would visually resemble the folder structure you desire. This could potentially be done with the help of scripting. I am more familiar with doing stuff like that on Mac using Automator, but honestly, something this complex is well beyond my skills in that regard. You would still have to “manually” get the media/clips to show up in the proper bin, as Avid itself is not scriptable at all. I think what you want is technically possible, but in 20 years of working in Avid, I’ve never seen anyone actually attempt it. Avid really isn’t meant to work that way. It works best when you do your organization within its own “universe”. The fact that the overwhelming majority of feature films use Avid is a testament to how rock solid it is when you use it as intended. I am currently working on a project with hundreds of bins and dozens of folders, all intricately organized…but all done within Avid, not at the desktop level.
As an aside, I understand your frustration in getting your meaning across, but Shane was really trying to help you here, and I agree with his overall assesment. He has a ton of experience with Avid and other NLEs and donates much of his time assisting people on this and other forums. He doesn’t deserve to be attacked just because you don’t like or agree with his answers. I’m certain he’s personally saved thousands of people from making a total disaster of their project.
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Its as easy as it sounds.
Without launching Avid, I go into my avid projects area from within the windows explorer screen. Inside that Avid Project folder structure, I create a new folder (right click new folder) same as you would in any other area in windows (or Mac).
In my case I made a folder called “made in Windows” I went inside that folder, and made another folder called “also made in windows” Inside that folder made another folder called “This too was made in windows”
I then launched Avid, loaded that project, and there was the folder structure. Inside Avid I made a bin, and moved it to the lowest folder inside that structure.
Glenn
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