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Simon Ubsdell
February 2, 2012 at 3:40 pm[Craig Seeman] “Might it be that OMF won’t happen until Logic Pro X is out . . . unless a third party succeeds. It might be Apple wants Logic to be an equal option, not giving ProTools and advantage. I’m not saying that’s a good business decision but it wouldn’t surprise me that Apple wants to give their tools equal footing (at least in their perception).”
I’d be more than happy for Logic X (if it ever comes!) to be a replacement for ProTools – which is overpriced and underperforming. Logic is a great product but …
Some of us work in an environment where we don’t get to choose, and the DAW we have to work with is dictated by the industry. We have to deliver audio projects in the DAW format required and conversely take delivery of them as they come, without moving them to a different DAW.
And the industry standard is and will remain ProTools for the foreseeable future (until AVID goes bust or sells it off either of which could be sooner rather than later).
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Matthew Sonnenfeld
February 2, 2012 at 3:50 pmAdobe Pro Tools. Can anyone else see it?
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Oliver Peters
February 2, 2012 at 4:33 pm[Matthew Sonnenfeld] “Adobe Pro Tools. Can anyone else see it?”
You haven’t been paying attention to Adobe, then. 😉
Adobe has had Audition for several years. Since CS5.5, it’s been both Mac and PC and included as the audio application in the bundles (replacing Soundbooth). It’s a very nice DAW (originated out of Cool Edit Pro) and takes OMFs and AAFs. Definitely better interchange outside of FCP than Soundtrack Pro. Basically it’s ProTools without the music/midi components.
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Matthew Sonnenfeld
February 2, 2012 at 5:32 pmOliver, I actually switched to Adobe in September and have been using Audition since then and I agree with you that it is excellent. What I was referring to was exactly the music capabilities of Pro Tools. Seems like that would be a very nice addition if you ask me.
Panasonic HPX170 P
2011 Macbook Pro 17″, 2.3 Ghz Quad Core, 8GB RAM
Matrox MXO2 LE with MAX
Adobe Premiere Pro CS5.5, Final Cut Pro Studio 3, Avid Media Composer 3.5.4
The College of WIlliam and Mary -
Craig Seeman
February 2, 2012 at 5:48 pm[Simon Ubsdell] “I’d be more than happy for Logic X (if it ever comes!) to be a replacement for ProTools – which is overpriced and underperforming. Logic is a great product but …”
Apple plays by their own rules and certainly their own strategy. I’m not saying it makes me happy. I’m not saying they will lock people into Logic but they may not release a feature until it works with their products first.
Just my hunch but I can imagine they’d have OMF or other round tripping to Logic as part of any feature that would also work with ProTools. In other words when they can get it to work with Logic, they’ll release it to the world and probably not before. If Logic become EOL that would be another story.
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Leo Hans
February 3, 2012 at 9:48 pmOliver,
Perhaps Apple has still work to do, but that’s not true.
If you share FCP7 project and one editor modify something the only way to consolidate both projects is to copy and paste sequences. But every change made in the clips (marks, sub-clips, metadata, etc). is lost.
So, you can share the media but not keep it updated.
I can see FCPX in the near future working in a real shared environment.
Leo Hans
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Oliver Peters
February 3, 2012 at 10:41 pm[Leo Hans] “If you share FCP7 project and one editor modify something the only way to consolidate both projects is to copy and paste sequences. But every change made in the clips (marks, sub-clips, metadata, etc). is lost.”
I think it depends. For example, in the film world, you can have an assistant on one system create a separate FCP 7 project for each day of dailies. Maybe 30 or more individual FCP 7 project files – one for each day of dailies. In the dailies project(s), he can ingest/import media, merge double-system sound, enter scene/take/log info, etc. The editor can now open a dailies project across the network, link to the media and copy & paste (or drag across) all that data into a bin in the editor’s master FCP 7 project. Works fine and no metadata is lost. Obviously a lot of manual work is done and it requires human communication and interaction between the editor and assistant. Granted, if the assistant later changes something in his dailies project, this doesn’t come across and would somehow have to be manually updated. The trick with FCP 7 projects and sharing has been to think of them like Avid bins (at the OS level) and work accordingly. The point is that two or more editors can freely shared FCP 7 projects in various ways that work for them.
I do a lot of work at a shop that has Final Cut Server and 4 seats of FCP 7. I presume at some point we’ll see this type of project management enter the picture for FCP X. With FC Server you have to use a formal check-out/check-in procedure, which is a lot like what Avid does in Interplay. That method (with FC Server) allows sharing, but only one editor can have the correct file checked out from FC Server at any given time.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com
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