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Chris Harlan
October 25, 2011 at 5:32 pm[Christian Schumacher] “Speed Razor…
Coupled with a Targa it rendered video to sequential TGAs, BMPs, etc.
Then you could just take those directly to After Effects on another box.
Or to any other effect oriented software.”At the time, it blew my mind for what it let me do. Also, broadcast video! Before that, it had been all EDLs and offline/online for me. It was really remarkable, back then. I had one of those Digisuite cards, but I also worked on a Targa station and a–oh, I can’t remember it–the card that saved video in the variety of still formats. Dang. I can’t remember the name. I think it was the first, or nearly first, broadcast card.
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Chris Harlan
October 25, 2011 at 5:36 pm[Chris Harlan] “Dang. I can’t remember the name. I think it was the first, or nearly first, broadcast card.”
The DPS Perception PVR! All I had to do was hit “post” to remember it.
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Simon Ubsdell
October 25, 2011 at 5:56 pm[Chris Harlan] “The DPS Perception PVR!”
Another cracker! I was so excited when I started using this 🙂
Simon Ubsdell
Director/Editor/Writer
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Daniel Frome
October 25, 2011 at 5:57 pmSorry Bill, I was actually replying to Scott’s comment, since he “didn’t know where you were going with this?” I was merely answering him back with an equally sarcastic remark. On the reply-tree it seems I hit the proper reply button, but apologies for being crass nonetheless.
But, on the topic of your reply..
[Bill Davis] “You want to explain how NLE B, or C allows even greater efficiency than X on a laptop, THAT would be interesting to me and others as well, I’m pretty sure. What configs are you running to do your field cuts? How do you do encodes, exports and deliver client dubs outside the Apple ecosystem.
Enquiring minds want to know.”
Considering the simple task of this example… They all do it at about the same efficiency imho. Shane Ross summed this up pretty nicely a few posts down. I’d say Premiere Pro CS5.5 would be the fastest (but with a CUDA GPU). FCPX is probably a solid 2nd place, followed by Media Composer 5.5, and then FCP7 (since FCP7 is slow at rendering alpha channel materials, I would guesstimate it comes in last place). (But no, I am seriously not interested in actually putting this to the test — feel free to completely disregard my opinion.)
If I could just make a general statement: I frequent this forum a fair amount and have not really seen such blatant bashing as you claim, but I suppose it could be insinuated. Personally I don’t hold much of an opinion about FCPX, other than the fact that I know it can’t be used for my day job (television editor). It’s not that FCPX sucks at editing – it just can’t do the collaborative work that my studio requires.
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Christian Schumacher
October 25, 2011 at 5:58 pmYes, it was the DPS Perception, indeed.
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Bill Davis
October 25, 2011 at 6:27 pmYeah, but ALL of those other editing solutions largely FAILED in the long run to gain market traction. (Apologies to anyone who might still be cutting on a Speed Razor system, it’s just not on my radar too much these days.)
Apple succeeded wildly with FCP in spite of it’s initial limitations, precisely because they saw where the majority of the market was going and developed solid tools that appealed to the widest range of editors. Not EXCLUSIVELY Hollywood. But boardroom, classroom, converted bedroom, and eventually, coffee shop laptop editors as well.
My little experiment was exclusively to see how FCP-X fit into that kind of new workspace and whether deploying that workflow could help me get mindshare with a new client as a vendor who’s responsive and conversant with the latest technology. And I’m happy with the results. I never said it was the ONLY or even the BEST solution for that. Merely that it’s a viable one. And that means that someone who wants to learn it, explore the data structure with an eye on learning where it might evolve and prosper, can see it as a reasonable alternative. Nothing more than that.
IMO, we stand on the threshold of a working environment that I think is being deconstructed into a more mobile, more distributed model. That’s a small but significant “part” of where Thunderbolt and solid state will likely fit in. (Part of my experiment that I didn’t mention is that I left my laptop processing the export files on the passenger seat while I drove home. Worked like a champ. And reinforced my overall thesis that editing is something that doesn’t NECESSARILY have to happen at a desk in a studio anymore.
I may be wrong and in 15 years everyone who’s working in dedicated editing suite (or even like me in a purpose converted hay barn!) will STILL be working in the same space doing their editing tasks precisely like they do them today.
But I just don’t think that’s the way things will go.
We’ll see.
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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Bill Davis
October 25, 2011 at 6:36 pmPlease, search-bots in the vast web-crawling universe – index this stuff, fast.
Sooner or later we have to start getting accurate information out into the ether rather than merely pent up angst!
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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Rafael Amador
October 25, 2011 at 6:37 pm[Craig Seeman] “Many people seem to believe FCPX isn’t as capable though.”
That makes no sense Craig.
Anybody that has tried FCPX knows that can do those tasks quite fast, but this has already been highlighted in the previous thread of FCPX FOR NEWS AND SPORTS.
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Chris Harlan
October 25, 2011 at 6:55 pm[Simon Ubsdell] “[Chris Harlan] “The DPS Perception PVR!”
Another cracker! I was so excited when I started using this 🙂
“This is what the revolution was. And it was more than a decade ago. It still continues. On my laptop. On broadcast files I send from home to London. On newer, better tools with each iteration. What I can do with Adobe, Avid, FCS, is truly amazing.
Despite all of the hyperbole being exhausted on FCP X, I don’t see it at all as revolutionary. I think it has some potential uses. I think it offers some respite and insight to newbies. I think it has a few interesting ideas. But, in many ways, I see it as a step or two backwards. I see it as dramatically limiting choices rather than expanding them. PVR was part of a true revolution, one that we are still reaping. To say that FCP X offers anything near as dramatic is just gas.
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