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  • Ted Levy

    June 26, 2011 at 5:31 am

    But why engage him at all? I don’t see how it’s productive.

  • David Roth weiss

    June 26, 2011 at 5:48 am

    [Ted Levy] “But why engage him at all? I don’t see how it’s productive.”

    Unfortunately, every once in a while leaders here do have to step up and try to put a stop to things. Aaron has been warned by Cow management in the past, so he should have known better.

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  • Ted Levy

    June 26, 2011 at 6:16 am

    Ah, thanks for the reply….

  • Rob Grauert

    June 26, 2011 at 11:38 am

    Hey man, I was in this boat too when FCPX first came out, and kept suggesting that people should just stick with FCP7.

    Then I thought about it and realized FCP7 is falling behind the competition. That’s why everyone was begging for a legit update! You can throw whatever you want into the Avid and Premiere timelines, and work natively. FCPX isn’t exactly doing that. You might say, “Well then switch,” but Steve Jobs did say, “This is going to be AWESOME,” which caused people to wait around.

    You really need to listen to the podcast between Rich Harrington and Walter Biscardi, and try to understand it from the perspective of someone who built a business around FCP.

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  • Adam Claude jones

    June 26, 2011 at 11:53 am

    The thing is people are not complaining because Apple has put professional features in the hands of amateurs for $300.

    People are complaining because Apple took the professional features away from everybody’s hand.

    Problem is not that it is too cheap, it is that it is no longer professional.

    You ranting makes no sense then.

  • Mike Guidotti

    June 26, 2011 at 3:58 pm

    You are totally right. Broadcast professional editors were not generating the kind of revenue that Apple predicts can be gained by shifting their product to a much broader range of customers.

    Its simple business – if Apple does not make profit they will cease to exist. They are a business just like you.

    If you were editing films for client X for many years, and now you are not making much money from client X any more. Clients A, B, C, and D come along and for a lower fee you can do their projects in the same amount of time it took to do client X, and your aggregate income will increase. You would be an idiot not to do it.

    What I am trying to say is you will try to keep long term clients but after a while if that long term client is not enough to pay the bills you will have to drop them in order to pick up one that’s more lucrative.

  • Ron Lindeboom

    June 26, 2011 at 5:21 pm

    Aaron,

    You have ‘tens of thousands of dollars worth of equipment” eh?

    More accurately, it would be “Your boss has tens of thousands of dollars worth of equipment.” The same boss you have bitched and complained about ad nauseum over the last few years. The one whom you think you are better than, know more than, and that clearly should be working for you if the world was just. Unfortunately, the world is rarely just and he must know more than you because you are working for him.

    Also, if you wish to wade in here and jump into an argument that is not yours, be prepared to have the people you have insulted, hand you your hiney in a bag.

    This was over-the-top, Aaron, and if you wish to continue to post in the COW this is your LAST warning. You have had previous warnings. Next up? Permanent removal from the site.

    Best regards,

    Ronald Lindeboom
    CEO, Creative COW LLC
    Publisher, Creative COW Magazine

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  • Dan Stewart

    June 26, 2011 at 5:38 pm

    Didn’t Apple get started with the kudos of being the preferred choice of creative pros? Am I being silly? Even before the iEra Proapps was a small part of their revenue but it seemed important to them, like Warner Bros giving Kubrick budgets even though he wasn’t making them any real profits..

    In that light the striking thing in all this is Apple’s total and rather devious about face. Is it a watershed moment for the company? Are they on their way to a 40 year Microsoft style pigf&*k? I thought we had at least until Jobs turned up his toes..

  • Brandon Kraemer

    June 26, 2011 at 7:21 pm

    While the original poster seems to lack a lot of tact and writing skill when expressing his opinion, I think is point was both misinterpreted and in part correct. This was not a comment about the lack of pro-features in FCPX that people are complaining about.

    The original poster was rebutting people who are complaining that putting so-called professional tools in the hands of the masses eliminates the need for professionals. It’s a different argument and one I have seen expressed along with the features complaints on other forums.

    It’s not a new argument however. FCP Studio vs. FCPX (+compressor/motion) is only a $600 discrepancy in cost, not that big of a game changer. Adobe CS5.5 Production Premium only cost $700 more than FCP Studio and gives you 5 major applications. The software has been getting more accessible form a cost standpoint for 10 years now.

    So I agree, it’s still about your skill level, experience and most of all ones professionalism, which is a good reason to not call each other cry-babies.

  • Pete Appleby

    June 29, 2011 at 1:36 am

    Yes, when you look at it from that perspective, the difference in cost is silly, if the buyer is seriously in the market. For example, if FCP X had 64 bit, background rendering, and maybe better integration with other apps, we probably would complain about the upgrade cost. But we would pay it.

    But the difference between $299 and $1000 is not a significant barrier to entry for a first time purchaser, if they are serious about getting into pro editing.

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