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Marcus Moore
April 29, 2014 at 4:50 pmWhile I’m all for 2 of the 3, I REALLY hope I never have to go back to conventional tracks. My personal experience is the couple times I’ve had to jump back to 7 have been plain painful.
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Franz Bieberkopf
April 29, 2014 at 5:21 pm[Marcus Moore] “Here’s the little chart I keep in my notes”
Marcus,
So, isn’t the pattern between feature updates thus:
91 days
133 days
266 days
428 days… and doesn’t that suggest a growing lag between feature updates, the next of which would be something like 600 days after the last feature update. (If you’re looking for patterns.)
Franz.
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Scott Witthaus
April 29, 2014 at 5:22 pmAgreed Marcus. Been doing a lot of testing with Resolve 10 and looking forward to 11. R10 has a long way to go, and no matter what they put into R11, I think X will be the superior editor. But, I am excited about the combination. Summer project will be to get very proficient on R11.
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Marcus Moore
April 29, 2014 at 5:34 pmThat’s true, Franz. And I hope it’s not a trend we see continue.
Though I do have two pet theories in that regard. First, I think Retina support in 10.0.5 to coincide with the rMBPs was probably “sprung” on the dev team, and set back whatever other feature update plans they had for that year. As for 10.1, Apple wanted to release it in conjunction with the new MacPro, no matter what. So I think it was another case of Apple’s hardware plans mucking with X release dates. Looking at how early guys like Ripple Training seemingly had 10.1 in their hands, it could have been release ready as early as October.
But this is all Kremlinology of the highest order.
Hopefully a feature update in the next month with reset the clock on the lengthening trend between feature releases.
If Apple released 10.1.2 today, it would be 131 days since the last feature update.
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David Mathis
April 29, 2014 at 5:40 pmI am super excited as well now that I have a Blackmagic Cinema Camera, still getting it ready to go out for some test footage.
Going to do most work in RAW format, granted this means a few extra steps but don’t mind doing it. We have a nice lake and dam nearby, probably the first few things for some test footage. Hoping that Red Giant Universe will be supported in the new version of Resolve as I want to get everything finished there. Also hoping that whatever I can cook up in Motion as a transition will be supported as well though that is not likely.
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Bill Davis
April 29, 2014 at 5:51 pm[Marcus Moore] “While I’m all for 2 of the 3, I REALLY hope I never have to go back to conventional tracks. My personal experience is the couple times I’ve had to jump back to 7 have been plain painful.”
Yup,
Tracks feel astonishingly restrictive after you get really comfortable with X.
“you mean I can’t pop a video track below track one? – I WANT that clip in the background for compositing below my primary – and you’re telling me that there’s no workspace below track 1? How can you work this way?”
(File Under: sentences never heard before FCP-X)
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Walter Soyka
April 29, 2014 at 5:59 pm[Franz Bieberkopf] “So, isn’t the pattern between feature updates thus: 91 days, 133 days, 266 days, 428 days, … and doesn’t that suggest a growing lag between feature updates, the next of which would be something like 600 days after the last feature update. (If you’re looking for patterns.)”
Some unrelated thoughts:
1. A few of us hypothesized back in 2011/2012 that the early feature updates were late launch features, not an indication of an extremely rapid pace of development that could be sustained indefinitely.
2. It’s easier to add features to a new, lean system or app than it is a mature, full-featured one. Eventually FCP X will transition from new/lean to mature/full-featured (if it hasn’t already).
3. The last feature release with libraries seems to have involved a bit of structural back-to-the-drawing-board — which could have increased the time prior to that release, and which may allow for some lean rapid development in that area in the next couple releases.
4. FCP X seems to be following the same trajectory that Motion and Aperture have, with a lot of exciting early development followed by stabilization and “boring” updates.
5. There are only 7 years to go before they blow it all up again with a new release, which means only 4-5 more years of active development here (he says jokingly… maybe).
Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
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Marcus Moore
April 29, 2014 at 6:04 pmAgreed about 10.1. I think those were foundational changes which probably forestalled some other, more surface level, feature work.
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Mitch Ives
April 29, 2014 at 9:41 pm[Marcus Moore] “While the editorial improvements in Resolve 11 are impressive, I think we’re still a generation or two away from it being competitive with the big 3. At least that my impression from reports. What they’ve done is great- it just has a ways to go.”
I think a lot of people would agree with that, but here’s the real question: Do you think in two years Resolve will have matured faster than FCP X has in it’s first two years? I use FCP X every day, but that doesn’t mean I think they’re moving forward fast enough…
Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.“Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.” – Winston Churchill
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Mitch Ives
April 29, 2014 at 9:46 pm[Scott Witthaus] “Agreed Marcus. Been doing a lot of testing with Resolve 10 and looking forward to 11. R10 has a long way to go, and no matter what they put into R11, I think X will be the superior editor. But, I am excited about the combination. Summer project will be to get very proficient on R11.”
I’m not sure I see any point in comparing R10 to R11? R10 was a grading program with a couple of basic editing things to allow you to not run back and forth. R11 could actually be used for a lot of editing projects from start to finish. Really no comparison, so unless you’ve spent time with R11, I’m not sure spending any time with R10 would allow you to reach any meaningful conclusions.
Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.“Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.” – Winston Churchill
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