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Time Code Frame count jumping 2 to 3 frames in FCP
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Hey Jan, he’s talking about the timecode in the viewer, not on the timeline.
Jeremy
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Hi Jeremy,
I think that the set up would be important for the capture/import. Capture should be set for 23.98, and if not the FCP would invent weird and TC.
I don’t have my Mac here and not sure I will have time to check it out before I leave town tommorrow. But I don’t recall seing what he is seeing on the PN stuff I was playing with.
Best,
Jan
Jan Crittenden Livingston
Product Manager, DVCPRO, DVCPRO50, AG-DVX100
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Hmm, doesn’t seem to matter what my easy setup is set for. I am on FCP 5.04 perhaps 5.1 operates differently?
Jeremy
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I have 5.1.1 and it does the same thing. Has anyone stepped through there frames and noticed this? I tried P2 Log and it works. I exported the XML and imported into FCP and it kept the 24 frame count no skips
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You know, I think what Jan is getting at is you need to modify the easy set up. I believe (and I haven’t checked this yet) that the capture set up for the 720p24 easy setup is set for 59.94 as this setup was originally used to capture Varicam footage which runs at 59.94. Perhaps if you make a new custom setup and change the capture to 23.98 it’ll fix this. Or you can just fix it later in the browser by changing the tc Rate. This is all wild speculation, but I can’t check it out now. Can you?
Jeremy
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It won’t let me change the digitizer settings becasue I am not hooked up to a DVCPRO HD deck or camera so I can’t test it now. But the problem is if you change the timecode base of your clip, it changes the start time. So in shooting the smart slate you can never come up with an accurate offset.
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[Brooks] “But the problem is if you change the timecode base of your clip, it changes the start time.”
How so? It’s calculated off of the 60p. Frame 0 in 24p is still frame 0 in 60p based tc. Frame 1 of 24p corresponds to frame 3 in 60p. Frame 2 of 24p corresponds to frame 5 of 60p. This cadence will be constant so you should be good. It will not rewrite the timecode, it simply recalculates it based on the 60p. If your clip starts on frame 3 of the 60p tc, FCP won’t start writing the tc at 0 when switch to 24p based tc, it will start the tc at frame 1. Sorry for all the numbers, but does that make sense to you?
Jeremy
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Yeah it makes sense it’s just a differnet mindset that I will have to get used to. It’s just more complicated when you have 3 cameras and a timecode slate that you are syncing. I guess I will just have to get used to it or import clips thru P2 Log.
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Hi There,
I’m not sure if its a problem to just jump into the middle of a thread, so forgive me for the inexperience. I added a post to the forum in an attempt to get some answers on a similar problem I’m having, but didn’t get any responses yet. I guess the Firestore is a new technologyt and there’s not a lot of users with experience out there yet.
My problem is that I recorded footage from an HVX200 in HD720 24P to the FS-100. When I import the footage in FCP Studio, it looses at least 1 frame on the beginning and a few on the end of the clip. When I imported the clips via P2 under Import, I checked the box on the bottom (rmove duplicate frames) which (I think) keeps the footage in 24P. I put the clips onto a 24P timeline and it looses a frame, so there’s a little jump in the video/audio. Now when I tried importing the clips without checking the “remove duplicat frame” box, it imports the clips as 60fps. There are no lost fromes now, but I need to edit on a 30fps timeline now. This isn’t acceptable to my client, as he has Varicam footage and wants to keep everything in 24P. I tried changing the TC Rate as you suggested, but it won’t allow me to. Do you have any suggestions on what to do or where to get answers. I just got a call back from Focus Enhancements tech support and they just reffered me to the downloadable PDF files they have available on the web.
Thanks for your time reading this saga,
Robert
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