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Thoughts from the departed?
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I think a lot of the noise was just from the shock of the whole thing, especially if you made your money with FCP 7. The reality is there was never a better time in history for that to happen as now there multiple options. I had an Avid gig for the first time in a long time a couple of months ago and had it down in about 2 weeks for basic editing, and I’m doing another project with PPro and that seems the best thing going for working with compressed cam original footage. Seems like there are plenty of good tools to do what you need to do but I can’t deny the whole debacle seriously changed my impression of Apple. I never was a true “fanboy” and now I’m much less of a fan.
Robert Brown
Editor/VFX/Colorist – FCP, Smoke, Quantel Pablo, After Effects, 3DS MAX, Premiere Prohttps://vimeo.com/user3987510/videos
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Been switching to Adobe since Final Cut Ex was released, at home I’ve got a PC with CS6 creative cloud & at work we have a mac pro 2,1 with FCS3 and CS6. At work it’s a mixture between FC7 and PPCS6 but moving more towards the latter. If I have an animation AE heavy project it’s CS6, if I have a lot of H264 source footage it’s CS6, if I know I will be doing some work at home, CS6.
FC7 is getting less and less use as I go, but it is still rock solid for cut to cut editing for me, plus I have a lot of legacy projects done before I was with the company that are in FCP, & with FCP still running great it’s easier to update them in FCP than try and convert/conform them to CS6. Obviously premiere pro is still missing things from FC7, but to me it’s missing the least of my alternatives. Not to mention the MPE speed and AE dynamic link mean a lot to my workflow.
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[Scott Sheriff] “the bottleneck in most systems is the editor”
Ha Ha! Definitely true with my system.
Jason Jenkins
Flowmotion Media
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All of my “facility” clients are still on FCP7. Many of them have downloaded PPro 5.5 and 6, Avid, and FCX to try them out, but they’re all still working in FCP7 daily. Hardware, established workflows and most importantly, it’s what their staff already knows. If you look at the costs of changing facility-wide, it’s a lot more than just the cost of some software licenses. If you’re a large facility, theres a lot of labor cost added in (downtime to upgrade the systems, time for the staff to learn new software, time to deal with glitches as they pop up). For many of the editors I work with, FCP is all they’ve ever known. Amazing and a testament to what Apple pulled off with the app over the years.
The one-man-bands that I work with are way more eager to switch apps. Mostly because it’s cheaper for them in the software purchase and it’s advantageous for them to know multiple platforms. Freelance people are also more open to spending their time learning an new app. Facility owners don’t want their entire staff spending their limited work hours learning new software, which you can’t bill a client for.
the last year has been incredibly interesting, that’s for sure. Me personally, I hope all the companies are watching each other and everything will improve though competition.
just my 2 cents
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Eric Hansen
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At Moviola taking a class on Avid! next step Smoke.
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Sticking with my 2008 MacPro for now, just bought a Quadro 4000 and am in the transitioning stage between FCP7 and Premiere CS6. FCPX is intriguing but I do a lot of motion graphics and I much prefer After Effects to Motion so I’d rather stay within the Adobe ecosystem seeing as I’m in PS and AE every day and I want as seamless a workflow as possible. Disclaimer: I’ve only dabbled in Premiere CS6 so far but from what I’ve seen, I’m excited to make the change.
Oh yeah… and I guess there’s Avid. I just can’t get excited for Avid – I’ll learn it if I have to but every time I go back and give it a shot I can’t shake the feeling that this is an old, slow, unintuitive program that, no matter how many version I skip before trying it again, doesn’t seem to change much.
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I’m slowly transitioning from FCP Studio to Adobe CS6.
Just finished my first commercial project in PrP6 and was very happy with the overall experience as was the client. The initial project came over perfectly from FCP7 as an XML and cutting in PP6 was familiar, fast and easy. The differences in media management – namely having to import projects rather than having multiples open in tabs – actually worked to my advantage in this piece.
My only beef is the well know issue of render on output. This was a two-minute piece so re-rendering output for the entire thing for every client change was not a huge deal. But it’s obvious this will get unmanageable very fast as program length increases. The Adobe notion that you pay the render tax at output is IMO very misleading, as it doesn’t account for client changes throughout the editorial process.
I know Adobe has heard this gripe many times before, but I’m saying it again because until they deal with it, output will be a big issue in many workflows. Once they nail this, media management and tape I/O, I think they’ll be golden.
I’m also now using dynamic link with AE for another piece I’ve just started and am giddy with the results. Coming from FCP/Motion, dynamic link between PrP6 and AE is a whole new world of awesome. I’m loving it.
In the meantime, FCP7 Legend is still an important part of the kit, mainly because there are so many legacy projects I still need to touch, but also for iChat Theater preview, which is an essential collaboration tool I have yet to find a replacement for.
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[Scott Sheriff] “Tracks are a step backwards?
LOL! That sounds very much like these new 5D shooters that think lights and tripods are outdated, or a step backwards.”LOL! Yep!
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[David Lawrence] “Just finished my first commercial project in PrP6 and was very happy with the overall experience as was the client. “
I know you are on a MBP but are you running windows or OS X? If OS X, how has your experience been with CS6? Better than CS 5.5?
Sohrab
FCS 3 & Adobe PPro
AJA Kona Lhi, Mac Pro 2 X 2.66 Ghz Quad Core
Flanders Scientific LM-1760W“The creative person wants to be a know-it-all. He wants to know about all kinds of things: ancient history, nineteenth-century mathematics, current manufacturing techniques, flower arranging, and hog futures. Because he never knows when these ideas might come together to form a new idea. It may happen six minutes later or six months, or six years down the road. But he has faith that it will happen.” — Carl Ally
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[Sohrab Sandhu] “I know you are on a MBP but are you running windows or OS X? If OS X, how has your experience been with CS6? Better than CS 5.5?”
Running Mac OS 10.6.8. To be honest, I briefly played with PrP CS 5.5 last year, but didn’t care for it. The changes in CS6 were what won me over.
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