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  • John Davidson

    May 9, 2013 at 2:37 am

    [Jeremy Garchow] “Also, what is a boi?”

    According to the latest study, the term “Fanboi” is 42% more insulting to Apple fanatics than “Fanboy”.

    Science!

  • Joseph W. bourke

    May 9, 2013 at 2:41 am

    So then “Fangoil” must be really over the top…

    Joe Bourke
    Owner/Creative Director
    Bourke Media
    http://www.bourkemedia.com

  • Jeremy Garchow

    May 9, 2013 at 2:43 am

    Dammit! I love science so much!

  • Andrew Kimery

    May 9, 2013 at 2:47 am

    [Joseph W. Bourke] “So then “Fangoil” must be really over the top…”

    I believe the proper feminization of “fanboi” is “fangrrl”. Neither should be confused with fangoy (a non-Jew that has a lot of Jewish friends).

  • Jeremy Garchow

    May 9, 2013 at 2:50 am

    This is my favorite thread on the entire Internet.

    My phone capitalizes Internet for me.

  • Chris Kenny

    May 9, 2013 at 2:59 am

    [Cameron Clendaniel] “For an incredibly expansive suite of software that has a great track record, for people that are presumably making a living off of it I don’t understand the angst over $50/month.”

    For folks who weren’t on Master Collection, and were skipping the occasional upgrade, Creative Cloud is about twice the annual price, with no ability to skip upgrades based on how compelling the new features are, and software that stops working if you stop paying. It’s hard to spin that as a great deal.

    It just seems like there isn’t any compromise here. Creative Cloud could have been win-win. Adobe could have looked at the average annual revenue they were getting from all Creative Suite customers (on any edition of the suite), and priced Creative Cloud say, 20% over that number. This still would have been a big win for Adobe, because it would have gotten them more evenly distributed revenue (instead of a burst when they ship each upgrade), and more annual revenue (that 20%, plus they’d be selling exclusively direct and consequently keeping the retailer’s markup). It’s true that they wouldn’t have gotten revenue from selling non-upgrade copies, but the flip side there would have likely been additional customers — I bet a properly priced subscription would make piracy less attractive, for one thing.

    This deal also would have been a huge win for customers — those who do keep pace with every Master Collection upgrade would have paid less than under the previous system. Those who historically haven’t used Master Collection or kept pace with upgrades would pay more than they used to, but they’d be getting more — Master Collection + all upgrades, at a lower price than they’d have previously been able to get those things. Plus, of course, the lack of an up-front cost would have been great for new customers.

    This option would have likely been so attractive that Adobe could have even continued offering the old pricing model for those who wanted it, and most people would have ended up on Creative Cloud anyway.

    But instead Adobe seems to have basically sat down and said “OK, it our wildest fantasy, how would this work?” They came up with “How about if every single Creative Suite customer were on the upgrade treadmill for the most expensive edition of our suite, forever, with no way to ever get off?” And here we are.


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  • Joseph W. bourke

    May 9, 2013 at 3:05 am

    Oh…you mean like in Batman, that great Jewish crime fighter, and the Goy Wonder.

    Joe Bourke
    Owner/Creative Director
    Bourke Media
    http://www.bourkemedia.com

  • Jeff Markgraf

    May 9, 2013 at 3:05 am

    And a Fanghoulie is a fan of Sven. Usually restricted to Chicago.

  • Bill Davis

    May 9, 2013 at 3:07 am

    I’ll just note that what’s happening here in the video world is a small echo compared to what I’m hearing from contacts in the professional design, page layout and advertising worlds.

    In fact, my wife just came in after a discussion with a production artist who’s work she’s managing for an extremely large health care financing client. She said that production artist spent 15 minutes of the long distance call vending anger and worry about how this Creative Cloud move would screw up her work as a top tier freelance artist and designer.

    Premier and our craft is a very small subset of what this change stands to disrupt.

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  • Andrew Kimery

    May 9, 2013 at 3:13 am

    [Bill Davis] “In fact, my wife just came in after a discussion with a production artist who’s work she’s managing for an extremely large health care financing client. She said that production artist spent 15 minutes of the long distance call vending anger and worry about how this Creative Cloud move would screw up her work as a top tier freelance artist and designer.”

    This might be a stupid question but how would CC screw up her work as a top tier freelance artist and designer?

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