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This is not like that.
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So I quite literally comprehend
That if I were to further append;
This thread with clever analogy
My conclusions would be considered fallacy.And though seemignly well endowed
By the analogies through which I plowed
Some of which are forever enduring
But played out in film would be quite boring.I’ll be sure now to add a new meta tag
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There once was a poet sublime
Who critiqued this thread as a crime.
He feared we’d an allergy
To any kind of analogy
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[Chris Harlan] “Bill, I’m pretty certain that you can find it in yourself to understand that Franz was not trying to set up rules, but was instead complaining about the magical misdirection he seems to think takes place here on occasion. By the way, is this your card?”
Strange argument.
If Franz feels “magical mis-direction” is being practiced here – isn’t it more helpful if he points it out in specifics?.
He impugned that those folks (presumably myself included since I do enjoy using smile and metaphor in arguments because I’m essentially “story” oriented and feel those forms are typically more inclusive and engaging than dry prose) who employ them should be somehow subject to extra scrutiny lest we diabolically slip in argumentative deception or ill-conceived logic! Warning, DANGER all!
Frankly, I don’t have the wit or talent to hide diabolical intent. I just write what I think and hope that some find the thinking interesting at least sometimes.
If Frans believes I’m engaged in logical trickery or even just crappy reasoning, I simply challenge him to do what we all do here regularly. Argue the points being made directly. I think that’s superior to trying to paint a whole group of position holders with a broad brush, a practice that allows him to hide behind a scattershot critique of the form – and avoid proffering specific points that can be argued.
In short, if he sees what he believes to be bad arguments – by all means, point them out.
Then we can all learn from the discussion.
Chris, you disagree with me constantly. And that’s totally fine with me. It keeps me on my toes.
But no matter how much you push back, you push at me openly and under your own name. Thats both respectful and respectable.
Sniping at people from behind a veil “lookee, looked, someone wrote about how dumb arguments can take the form they take here – so be extra wary in case those wiley storytellers bamboozle you” smacks of someone who didn’t want to step up and confront the individual arguments, but rather wanted to put themselves on some imaginary high ground without making any argument to support such a need.
It’s what passes for modern political argument writ cranky… “but you’re a (republicrat -no, wait, WORSE – you’re a metaphoreist!!! – therefore you clearly don’t have a clue what you’re talking about!
Sounds a bit silly doesn’t it?
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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[Michael Gissing] “Be sure to never split an infinitive
Don’t use no double negatives
And never generalise, that’s a rule you see everyone break…”As a word-nerd, Michael, I found your post highly entertaining. Cracked me up good.
Andy
https://www.timesavertutorials.com
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Please post the youtube video of this guy singing this song!
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“Aye, the power of beauty will sooner transform honesty from what it is to a bawd than the force of honesty can translate beauty into its likeness. This is sometime a paradox. But the time gives it proof.”
Shakespeare is awesome because he covers everything — apparently, even video editing software!
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No video but here’s Bruce singing from his Myspace page.
https://www.myspace.com/brucewatsonmusic/music/songs/the-rules-of-english-68898380
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[Michael Gissing] “No video but here’s Bruce singing from his Myspace page.
https://www.myspace.com/brucewatsonmusic/music/songs/the-rules-of-english-68...
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That is staggeringly terrific! Do you know how I can get a copy of his album here in the states?
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Bruce’s CDs can be bought or downloaded directly from his website. He is comedic and eco political in style. Tell him where you got the contact from –
Found a video version –
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_GehrS6Ink
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[Scott Sheriff] “I’m not accusing anybody, of anything. I’m just saying that my rule of thumb is to not get rick-rolled following blind links posted by people I don’t recognize. I’m sure I’m not the only one. You may recognize Franz, but I don’t have a clue who he is, nothin’ personal.”
How is it a blind link? The URL clearly says “Arstechnica” (which is one of the biggest tech sites around) and if you hover over the link it will show you the destination URL at the bottom of your browser.
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