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  • Paul Dickin

    November 13, 2013 at 10:48 am

    [Jeremy Garchow] “This is a test. I am going to delete it.

    Hi
    Gone from the thread navigation below each post.
    Still there on the main View posts by Newest Posts (Date) list page.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    November 13, 2013 at 11:35 am

    And your post doesn’t show up either, Paul.

    Good sleuthing!

  • Gary Huff

    November 13, 2013 at 2:12 pm

    [Bill Davis] “WHAT? WHAT! — if you say something remarkably stupid here you can go back and DELETE it?”

    You have to realize it’s stupid first, Bill. :-p

  • Jeremy Garchow

    November 13, 2013 at 4:47 pm

    [Walter Soyka] “I’ve got a pretty good alibi — I’m way too fond of the sound of my own voice to ever delete one of my own posts :)”

    So, you read all your posts aloud to yourself?

    I think I have to try this.

  • Walter Soyka

    November 13, 2013 at 5:08 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “So, you read all your posts aloud to yourself? I think I have to try this.”

    Really, I should hire Bill Davis to read them aloud for me. What a voice!

    Walter Soyka
    Principal & Designer at Keen Live
    Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
    RenderBreak Blog – What I’m thinking when my workstation’s thinking
    Creative Cow Forum Host: Live & Stage Events

  • Shawn Miller

    November 13, 2013 at 5:22 pm

    [Walter Soyka] “[Jeremy Garchow] “So, you read all your posts aloud to yourself? I think I have to try this.”

    Really, I should hire Bill Davis to read them aloud for me. What a voice!”

    Totally agree, Bill’s work is impressive… what I really want to know though, is who’s going to read Aindreas’ rants? Can Simon Ubsdell do a proper Irish dialect? 🙂

    Shawn

  • Tim Wilson

    November 13, 2013 at 5:53 pm

    Okay, there are two things going on, and there are a couple of threads where they’ve converged to make a bit of a mess. Three quick points, and two questions for you.

    First, we recently added a Delete button for posts. This is actually a requirement in some countries, and in fact, we’ve had folks from 200 different nations and territories visit us in the last year.

    As it stands now, deleting a post deletes replies to it as well. Do you think it would be better if that wasn’t the case?

    Second, there are folks in the COW and its predecessor community who’ve been with us for over 15 years now. We’d heard quite a few complaints over the years that seeing the same questions coming up again and again was making them disinclined to keep participating. We created a feature called Hide Newbie Posts that’s on the first page of your account settings.

    The default is to have that setting On, meaning, you will of course see your own posts and responses to it, but a combination of the age of an account and keywords in the post lead to certain kinds of posts becoming deprioritized.

    It appears to have been working, because we’re no longer getting complaints about newbies, and nobody is complaining that their questions aren’t getting answered.

    We talk about this among ourselves regularly, whether Hide Newbie Posts should be On or Off as its default. Since it’s unlikely that most people know that it exists at all, getting this right is a pretty big deal.

    SOOOOOO….do you think everyone should see every post by default? And make them DECIDE to block some automatically? My GUESS is that most people would prefer the default to be OFF, because most of the people here are generally interested in helping other people….but that’s me. What about you?

    In any case, the choice belongs on the settings page — but how do we draw people’s attention to this feature? It’s pretty easy for new members, because they’re seeing the settings page. But some of the older members we created this feature for haven’t been to their profile pages for a decade or more. Was making the choice for them the right call?

    Anyway, those are my questions. How should we handle post deletions, and how should we handle hiding newbie posts? Because right now, yeah, on a couple of threads, it looks pretty messy to have all those holes.

    My third point is that, with over 1000 posts a day in the COW, I don’t get to see too many threads myself, and I almost never get to read them closely enough to see that there are gaps. I absolutely rely on you contacting me directly, or going to the Letters To The COW Team forum to put these issues where I can see them. I’m only on this thread at all because somebody alerted me to it.

    Feel free to talk to me about anything else that you feel needs my attention of course, or anything related to the last 50 years of pop music and the Boston Red Sox in particular. Talk to me about movies and TV in the TV & Movie Appreciation Forum when you get a chance, and in general, have a lovely day.

    Yr pal,
    Timmy

    Tim Wilson
    Vice President, Editor-in-Chief
    Creative COW

  • Herb Sevush

    November 13, 2013 at 6:15 pm

    As a recently declared super-pro I will offer my opinions –

    [Tim Wilson] “As it stands now, deleting a post deletes replies to it as well. Do you think it would be better if that wasn’t the case? “

    Please don’t delete replies. You can indicate a canceled post and remove that posters name, but deleting the replies will end up deleting whole new sub-threads that can be as important as anything else.

    [Tim Wilson] “do you think everyone should see every post by default? And make them DECIDE to block some automatically? My GUESS is that most people would prefer the default to be OFF, because most of the people here are generally interested in helping other people….but that’s me. What about you?”

    Definitely off – especially on this forum. We are all newbies here.

    [Tim Wilson] “anything related to the last 50 years of pop music and the Boston Red Sox in particular.”

    One of those two suck and the other is quite excellent. I’ll let you decide.

    Herb Sevush
    Zebra Productions
    —————————
    nothin’ attached to nothin’
    “Deciding the spine is the process of editing” F. Bieberkopf

  • Jeremy Garchow

    November 13, 2013 at 9:07 pm

    I’m with Herb.

    There’s no reason to delete anything but the post that the person wants deleted.

    It’s OK if there’s a little hole in the conversation thread, we will figure it out.

  • Tim Wilson

    November 13, 2013 at 9:12 pm

    Working on it this very second. Stand by for an update. 🙂

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