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There Is No Such Thing as an Asymmetrical Dissolve Transition.
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[Gary Huff] “I just find it odd that someone would put their name in a signature at the bottom when their photo AND full name is right there at the top. It’s as redundant as putting in the same text description from a YouTube video in a slate at the beginning of the video itself.”
Surely it’s just good manners?
Yours sincerely
Steve Connor
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[Charlie Austin] “David, you haven’t thought this through, or read this thread. That is not an asymmetric dissolve at all, as such a thing does not exist. All you’ve done is change the position of the dissolve relative to the cut point. Sorry, I’ve done the math. if I put a centered dissolve on a copy of that media, matching the same position as any of yours, it would be the same. “
feels nearly high handed all that. I feel like an idiot myself on this, but as an audio professional who started out scratching tape with razor blades thirty years ago, it’s quite odd that you only came to the realisation of the nature of constant power audio dissolves a few days into the discussion.
That Lawrence dude does seems pretty wild aces brains to me, and hey – the skywalker editdroid background could be snuff for some respect.
all that said your milage might seriously vary charlie.
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “feels nearly high handed all that. I feel like an idiot myself on this, but as an audio professional who started out scratching tape with razor blades thirty years ago, it’s quite odd that you only came to the realisation of the nature of constant power audio dissolves a few days into the discussion. “
It was late, and i didn’t feel like starting it all over. Please feel free to look at some of the condescending comments tossed my way over the preceding threads though. I think I was pretty… fair. 😉
And I agree about the constant power thing, it was a “duh!’ moment for sure. I was honestly bamboozled by the fancy “asymmetric dissolves” that I was assured Pr had. Then I actually opened Pr, poked around and realized that there was nothing “new”. Just a more flexible transition alignment feature. Live and learn. I guess if I used dissolves more it wouldn’t have taken so long.
In any case, I apologize if I appeared high-handed.
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Mmmm.
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[Steve Connor] ”
Surely it’s just good manners?”Emily Post put something in the mail for you.
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Just when you thought it was all over there is a way to do asymmetrical dissolves on a single track but not in an NLE. However DAWs, particularly the ones I have used (dSP & Fairlight) do allow for asymmetrical dissolves.
They can do it because you can dissolve (crossfade) to clips stacked on the same track. On the outgoing clip a fade can be added. The length of that dissolve and the shape of the curve are fully adjustable. Then another clip can be placed over that outgoing dissolve and the clip on top can then be set with another dissolve with a different length, start point and curve shape.
So it is possible but basically it is emulating doing asymmetry by splitting tracks or layers in an NLE.It is useful and powerful but if I need to do a similar thing with images in an NLE, I just use V1, V2 etc layer and keyframed opacity ramps.
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[Michael Gissing] “Just when you thought it was all over there is a way to do asymmetrical dissolves on a single track but not in an NLE. However DAWs, particularly the ones I have used (dSP & Fairlight) do allow for asymmetrical dissolves.
They can do it because you can dissolve (crossfade) to clips stacked on the same track. On the outgoing clip a fade can be added. The length of that dissolve and the shape of the curve are fully adjustable. Then another clip can be placed over that outgoing dissolve and the clip on top can then be set with another dissolve with a different length, start point and curve shape.
So it is possible but basically it is emulating doing asymmetry by splitting tracks or layers in an NLE.It is useful and powerful but if I need to do a similar thing with images in an NLE, I just use V1, V2 etc layer and keyframed opacity ramps.”
That’s a very interesting point to make because it highlights another way of looking at this in FCP X.
In actual fact, as Charlie Austin has pointed out though not in so many words, what happens when you add a dissolve to an edit in a secondary storyline is that you’re creating pretty much the exact the same thing as a stacked track.
Create a music edit in a secondary, then add a dissolve at the edit point.
Then Expand the audio (Ctrl+S) – what you will then have are two overlapping tracks where X has added the handles for the dissolve.
To create a true asymmetric dissolve all you need to do is grab the fade handles and adjust to taste – very simple and very powerful.
So maybe what Charlie should have said is “There Is No Such Thing as an Asymmetrical Dissolve Transition in any NLE except FCP X”.
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Admittedly when you adjust the fade handles you are over-riding the Dissolve transition that you’ve added so strictly speaking the dissolve transition itself is still never asymmetric, but it does create the condition where one adjustment will create the asymmetry.
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[Simon Ubsdell] “So maybe what Charlie should have said is “There Is No Such Thing as an Asymmetrical Dissolve Transition in any NLE except FCP X”.
“Hey, you’re right!… I’m going to head over to the Premiere and MC forums and helpfully point this out immediately! 😉
[Simon Ubsdell] “Admittedly when you adjust the fade handles you are over-riding the Dissolve transition that you’ve added so strictly speaking the dissolve transition itself is still never asymmetric, but it does create the condition where one adjustment will create the asymmetry.
“Exactly. Now, someone helpfully pointed out to me that you can do the same thing by expanding audio at the cut, dragging out your handles, and using the trim tool to drag the edit point when the clips are collapsed. But using a dissolve creates your handles in one click and lets you drag the edit point without switching tools. I think it’s a much quicker way to do it if you need to.
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[Charlie Austin] “But using a dissolve creates your handles in one click and lets you drag the edit point without switching tools. I think it’s a much quicker way to do it if you need to.”
It’s a really powerful option – not having to drag out the handles yourself is a significant time saver.
A great tip, thanks for sharing it.
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[Simon Ubsdell] “A great tip, thanks for sharing it.
“Well, to be fair, the thanks should go to Aindreas and David for sending me down the rabbit hole where I stumbled on it. 😉 Definitely a timesaver though, I might actually use secondary’s for MX beds now.
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