There Is No Such Thing as an Asymmetrical Dissolve Transition.

[Charlie Austin]

[Chris Harlan] “Well, you made me look!

8.1 does have some changes. Little ones but nice. You can finally invisible a clip or track. Its worth the upgrade for me!”

Well, that only took 20 years. lol I may do it, but since it’s not even close to being my main axe it’s a bit hard to justify the 200-something they want. I DL’d it the other day… maybe I’ll take the demo for a test drive…

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[David Lawrence]

[Charlie Austin] “The two dissolves below are exactly the same. Try it. do the same with your own cue. listen to each one. You are just changing the cut point, not the dissolves’ midpoint.”

Charlie, Charlie, Charlie…

Let me show you something I just tried in a Brand New NLE!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imohHnbGEVk
Pretty amazing difference for something that doesn’t exist. 😉

And I can add that dissolve… wait for it… in a single key press! 🙂

BTW, Resolve 11 also has audio fade handles, great for those times when you absolutely, positively have to use a mouse. Just kidding, they’re really sweet. Now if we could just have an option to turn off those gimmicky rectified waveforms… 😉

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[Charlie Austin]

[David Lawrence] “Pretty amazing difference for something that doesn’t exist. 😉

And I can add that dissolve… wait for it… with a single key press! :)”

David, you haven’t thought this through, or read this thread. That is not an asymmetric dissolve at all, as such a thing does not exist. All you’ve done is change the position of the dissolve relative to the cut point. Sorry, I’ve done the math. if I put a centered dissolve on a copy of that media, matching the same position as any of yours, it would be the same.

And I actually can add a dissolve effect with a single keystroke in X. Yes, you can adjust the cut point within the effect in other NLE’s, where I have to slide the actual transition. Yay! The fact remains:

It. Is. The. Same. Thing. 😉

[David Lawrence] “Let me show you something I just tried in a Brand New NLE!
“
New? Maybe to you. I’ve been using it since sometime in April or May. 🙂

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[Walter Soyka]

Charlie is right on, and a clearer example might be dissolving from absolute silence to tone. Export and look at the resulting waveforms.

If so-called asymmetric dissolves could, say, come in slow and go out fast, they would have an inflection point at the cut’s location, with a lower slope before and a higher one after.

Instead, you’ll see a constant curve, no inflection, indicating steady output from the transition around a (virtually) re-positioned cut point. Asymmetric (sic) edits are still symmetrical, just around a different center than defined by the editor on the timeline.

(Interestingly, this is the first example of a timeline modifier I can think of, where an edit point is maintained in the UI and programmatically modified for output — an idea I put forward in the destructive versus non-destructive thread.)

Walter Soyka
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[Bret Williams]

With a white flash I’d simply place a white slug above, and yes do two dissolves. Fade in, and fade out. The fade out being longer than the fade in.

[Bret Williams]

I do believe Andreas completely admitted defeat when he said “mmmm.”

[David Lawrence]

[Walter Soyka] “Charlie is right on, and a clearer example might be dissolving from absolute silence to tone. Export and look at the resulting waveforms.”

Guys,

Seriously, you’re missing the point.

• Start on edit
• Center on edit
• End on edit

These are three different alignments for a transition.

They give you three different timing results with the same cut point.

You’re making a semantic argument. Call them asymmetrical or call them Shirley, I really don’t care. The point is control of transition alignment, something we currently don’t have in FCPX without jumping thru hoops.

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[Walter Soyka]

[David Lawrence] “Guys, Seriously, you’re missing the point.
• Start on edit
• Center on edit
• End on edit”

I think there is a difference between transition alignment and what was being referred to as an asymmetrical transition (but is in fact symmetrical with a custom alignment).

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[David Lawrence]

[Walter Soyka] “I think there is a difference between transition alignment and what was being referred to as an asymmetrical transition (but is in fact symmetrical with a custom alignment).”

I’m really not attached to the name, call it whatever you like. My point has always been about the functionality.

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[Walter Soyka]

[David Lawrence] “I’m really not attached to the name, call it whatever you like. My point has always been about the functionality.”

There are multiple discussions going on here; one was definitely about transitions of non-constant rates. This is what Charlie was (rightly) calling shenanigans on.

I think your point, which is different than what I think Charlie is discussing in this thread, also stands.

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