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There Is No Such Thing as an Asymmetrical Dissolve Transition.
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[Chris Harlan] “You guys are apples and oranging it, aren’t you? Charlie, you are making the point that an “asymmetrical” edit, in the traditional sense, really isn’t, because all its doing is moving the center point of the cut within the transition as opposed to on the timeline, and Aindreas is pointing out the convenience of having a tool, vis a vis the transition, to do that.
“But it’s fun isn’t it? And yes, i too agree that having the ability to move the center point within the transition would be nice. Some transitions in X do, the dissolve doesn’t yet, so you need to slide it. I’m not sure that’s Aindreas’ argument though… 🙂
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Lap dissolve. Anyone?
Tim
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I’ve always thought a star wipe works better than a dissolve in most cases, anyway.
But if you’ve got the change, a lap dissolve is fun, too.
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For the love of God, don’t mention to him the thing about the airplane on the treadmill runway…
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I was about to say that I’m looking at one right now on my timeline and then I realized that you specified “dissolve”. (Its an AvidFX transition template I created a long while back with some animated effects, a transition that is asymmetrical depending on placement, but it is not a dissolve)
Though a dissolve template could be created where the cut is the 50% point such that a 30frame dissolve starting 10 frames from the cut goes from 0% to 50% in 10 frames and then 50% to 100% in 20 frames (which can be done with keyframing).
But we’ve all long known that starting a 30frame dissolve at 14 frames from the cut is really the same as starting the dissolve at 15 frames and then moving the cut one frame, whichever we do is dependent on the timeline in question. For instance when laying music using dissolves to bring it in or out is common, but I always place my dissolves entirely within the clip because I know that later I’m going to have to fill out a music cue sheet and doing so makes it far easier to figure out the actual length of time the music is being played.
I guess I just don’t see the point. Might as well argue that there is no such thing as video because its just a series of still images.
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[Jeff Kay] “I guess I just don’t see the point.”
I think Charlie’s point was probably that “asymmetrical dissolves” are sometimes perceived as being something that they aren’t and that leads to confusion.
Simon Ubsdell
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[Simon Ubsdell] “[Jeff Kay] “I guess I just don’t see the point.”
I think Charlie’s point was probably that “asymmetrical dissolves” are sometimes perceived as being something that they aren’t and that leads to confusion.
“lol… Yep, the confusion was mine, and I spent a couple days trying to recreate something which, as i’ve just discovered, doesn’t really exist. I did come up with a useful little trick in the process, so it wasn’t a complete waste of time. 🙂
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well yes – but if you exaggerate it enough to weight one side over the other, the cut centre point analogy fails doesn’t it?
https://imgur.com/4T53wD4,4O9CNGn,24nB3ee#0
the cut point there remains the same throughout, a spoon is still a spoon as it were, then there is a default transition,
and then it is weighted heavily to favour the incoming audio – the mix to the incoming edit is pretty smooth, occurs over like a bar hypothetically or whatever, and the trailing mix is just a couple of frames.What it is, effectively, is the same as charlie’s operation where he expands audio components, sets a custom edit overlap for both clips, fiddles with fade gui handles and generally spends an eternity doing what took me one keystroke and two mouse clicks.
so, you know, in summation, X is bad and should feel bad about itself.crystal clear, you need me on that wall, code red. the end.
https://i.imgur.com/574uWB1.jpg
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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I have not yet read the rest of the thread below, but I always assumed an asymmetrical transition (where you could slide the middle point) wasn’t just moving the cut point. On a dissolve, for example, the middle point is where both a and b have reached 50% opacity. I always assumed that an asymmetrical dissolve was one in which you reached the 50% point faster than you left it, or vice versa. IOW, it might take 10 frames for A and B to reach 50% opacity, but then 30 frames to complete their transition to 100% and 0%.
And it’s not that you wouldn’t ever want to do it. I do it all the time manually on flash to white. I dissolve to white with about 3 frames, then finish the dissolve out in 6 or 9 frames.
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On your example, one would simply apply the audio transition and then slide it back to suit. Your transition in your example is just a cross fade. The center of the cross fade is in the center of the cross fade. All it’s doing is keeping your cut point where it is. Just a variation of the “start on edit or end on edit” function. Those are not asymmetric either. At least not in my book.
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