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The Position Tool Does Not Disable Ripple Mode – Here’s Why
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[David Cherniack] “Space in such a timeline is not a negative gap object. It is simply space, the absence of an object.”
I’ve mentioned this before but Media Composer in fact has always treated what you are calling “space” as gaps, so this isn’t something radically new in FCPX.
In MC you can make cuts in the gaps (AVID call it “filler”), you can add effects to them (very useful for effects that apply to a whole timeline like crops etc.), you can edit gaps into the timeline to shift other stuff out of the way, you can even accidentally move with them the Segment tool and overwrite other clips. Generally it’s a pretty useful way of working tnhat doesn’t feel at all counter-intuitive – so if legions of traditional editors can cope with it in MC, why not in FCPX?
I’m not at all sure that gaps are really that much of an issue – which is not to say that there aren’t other issues.
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[David Cherniack] “I’m sure this all makes sense if you’re using FCPx but if you’re not do you realize how completely, insanely, complicated this dialogue sounds. Like out of some bizarre alternate universe.”
I was reading the line below and thinking exactly the same thing.
[Andy Neil] “You cannot create a secondary storyline with only a gap. You must first create the storyline from a clip and then add a gap and delete the clip. Once that’s done, if you Break Apart Clip Items, the gap inside the secondary storyline simply disappears.
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[Andy Neil] “I see the magnetic timeline as merely a reversal of the previous timeline conceit. At the end of an edit, you are not going to want any gaps or black flashes, so the magnetic timeline exists to prevent that.”
Andy, if you’re seeing gaps like blank frames I can understand why you think they’re great. I’m not. Gaps for me are the ‘quiet’ spaces between clips on audio tracks and the ‘covered’ spaces on lower video tracks. They’re the absence of objects.
As I said I’m sure the dialogue about gaps makes sense to you guys who are actually using (and attempting to use) the program. From outside the ecosystem it just sounds like the talk you’d hear in any engineering conclave…or among monkeys at the zoo…not that there’s any comparison intended 🙂
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[David Roth Weiss] “I was reading the line below and thinking exactly the same thing.”
Really, guys, it’s just a language. Every program has it. If you aren’t familiar with it, it sounds foreign. When people explain segment mode in Avid, I gloss. I have no idea what it means. 15 minutes with the FCPX timeline and you would have at least a cursory knowledge of what a secondary storyline is, as I’m sure I would in Avid, or maybe not? I haven’t used Avid since the 90s and plan to stay that way if at all possible.
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[Simon Ubsdell] “I’ve mentioned this before but Media Composer in fact has always treated what you are calling “space” as gaps, so this isn’t something radically new in FCPX.”
Yes I acknowledged that in my post. But it isn’t true of other NLEs, as I mentioned.
I think the problem that others are finding with gaps in X is that theyre a more functional part of the magnetic timeline than in MC…seemingly to keep all the rippling behaviour copacetic.
David
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[David Cherniack] “I think the problem that others are finding with gaps in X is that theyre a more functional part of the magnetic timeline than in MC…seemingly to keep all the rippling behaviour copacetic.”
They sound very similar to me except people have forgiven Avid for their shortcomings already so the venom is a lot less vile.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Really, guys, it’s just a language”
I wish there were such a thing as ‘just a language’. Then my wife would not be giving me a dirty look when I say “I’ll scrub that pot tomorrow.” Language reflects thought. Thought reflects disposition. Disposition reflects attitude. Attitude reflects politic. Politic reflects ideation. Ideation reflects attachmnent. In other words we’re in the crapper every time we open our mouths. The only way out is poetry. Gaps is not poetry.
David
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[David Cherniack] “Yes I acknowledged that in my post. But it isn’t true of other NLEs, as I mentioned.
I think the problem that others are finding with gaps in X is that theyre a more functional part of the magnetic timeline than in MC…seemingly to keep all the rippling behaviour copacetic.”
Yes, I was only talking about Media Composer but the point I was trying to make is that MC has been around forever and nobody has found its implementation of gaps/filler to be an issue.
Maybe it’s because my cutting days started back with 35mm/16mm I’ve always found the notion of “gaps”/slug/filler having the property of physical objects to be an entirely natural and helpful one.
Other than the fact that other clips can be connected to them I don’t see FCPX gaps as being in any significant way different from those in MC – in some ways they could do with being more like actual objects. It would be a real bonus if you could add effects to them as you can in Media Composer.
Simon Ubsdell
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[Jeremy Garchow] “people have forgiven Avid for their shortcomings already so the venom is a lot less vile.”
There’s something to be applauded about longevity. Look at Betty White. Some get a standing O just for being alive.
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[Simon Ubsdell] “. It would be a real bonus if you could add effects to them as you can in Media Composer.”
You mean like an adjustment layer?
David
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