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The Patent Thing
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[Chris Harlan] “Mitch, I don’t think anyone is arguing that there shouldn’t be patents. I think everyone is simply aghast at how out of hand the system has become.”
I agree Chris. I too have some concerns, but since I’m not privy to all the data, I can’t really tell if it’s out of control…
Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.“Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.” – Winston Churchill
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Michael, I’m not discounting your points, just correcting the PARC info. Perhaps I wasn’t clear enough. My apologies for that.
I was around when all this went down (had five Lisa 2’s BTW). I know the PARC story well… probably spent more time studying it than most people.
I personally believe that Jobs had Xerox’s tacit consent on using this stuff. Many at PARC were not happy that none of this ever saw the light of day. Since I had the first LaserWriter here in 1983 ($7995), believe me, I’m glad John Warnock left and used PARC research to start Adobe.
Not sure I’d believe Wiki… too many mistakes.
Mitch Ives
Insight Productions Corp.“Criticism may not be agreeable, but it is necessary. It fulfills the same function as pain in the human body. It calls attention to an unhealthy state of things.” – Winston Churchill
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[Jim Giberti] “They’re a small company, with very big ideas and a breakthrough product that won both Popular science and the lighting industry’s product of the year award recently.”
I’m curious then. If their tech was so “breakthrough” why couldn’t they partner with a stronger company to fight back? Seems to me that if your product has that much potential to revolutionize an industry, you’d have suitors lined up around the block for the mere chance to ride along on your coat tails?
Could it be that the product just “seemed” to be revolutionary to some – but others didn’t see it that way?
IIRC, the Popular Science history was of monthly “the next big things” that very seldom ever got leveraged into actual products. Wonder why?
Again, I suspect there’s a reason that the “product of the year” turned out not to be enough to turn their tech into a revolution.
Not I’ll freely admit that they might have gotten steamroller’d by a patent fight from a less worthy competitor. But if their innovation skills are strong enough, they’ll bounce back. If not they won’t. It’s the ebb and flow of real-life business. Not always fair, for sure, but typically as consistent as the tides.
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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[Bill Davis] “I’m curious then. If their tech was so “breakthrough” why couldn’t they partner with a stronger company to fight back? Seems to me that if your product has that much potential to revolutionize an industry, you’d have suitors lined up around the block for the mere chance to ride along on your coat tails?”
I’m curious too. Why do you always have to be the biggest dick in the room?
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[Jim Giberti] “I’m curious too. Why do you always have to be the biggest dick in the room?
“Because I’m not in real life and I’m compensating?
(Sorry, just couldn’t resist.)
Look, I’m not trying to be a dick about this. I’m trying to put forth arguments that I think are valid and that espouse alternate points of view.
People know what to expect here. Four or five guys on one side, three or four of us on the other.
It’s the kind of debate that’s kept this forum so popular.
Personally, I don’t like untested contentions because they make for lazy arguments. Everyone here is in the choir. Most everyone works in professional editing and as such, shares a view that their experiences are the proper perspective from which to view industry changes.
That may be true in some cases but is it true in ALL of them?
I started here because it seemed EVERYONE was saying X was crap. I started testing that then conventional wisdom – and the more I did, the more I became convinced that the prevailing attitudes were short-sighted and often off target.
Plus I suppose I have an emotional stake in Apple’s continued success. They’ve been my software provider of choice for well over a decade and have enabled a lot of my success with their tools.
Side issues like this patent thing are just interesting to me – as they appear to be for others.
Problem with that?
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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[Jeremy Garchow] ” I want a jet pack dinosaur laser.”
No dice dude.
Nobody can figure out whether the NSA, FAA, or the BLM (dinosaurs need grazing permits, after all) has jurisdiction.
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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Here’s more on pinch to zoom:
https://www.theverge.com/2012/8/30/3279628/apple-pinch-to-zoom-patent-myth
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[Bill Davis] “Problem with that?”
in the ancient history of the internet, and where you regularly reside bill – “problem?”
https://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/trollface-problem.jpg
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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[Jeremy Garchow] “If you live by the sword!…..
https://androidandme.com/2012/09/smartphones-2/samsung-htc-to-block-us-eu-sa...”
Another win for consumers!
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David Lawrence
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