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  • Morten Carlsen

    November 28, 2012 at 8:03 pm

    I just ordered 😉

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    November 28, 2012 at 8:09 pm

    [Bill Davis] “Well, this is “kicks” for you – but just understand that nobody actually SAID that – so you’re starting off by arguing about something that nobody’s actually espousing – so you’re in a self-induced spiral -pretty much from paragraph ONE.”

    Ah Bill Davies, Bill davies, Bill Davies, what’ll I do with you?

    All I’m doing there is positing a statement -as you well know – not looking to falsely quote anyone, just proposing a statement in debating terms, that I then try to back up with argument and example – the days of shark icons at an end etc.

    After that I’m pretty much looking to see if i can get your eyes to roll back into your skull and have you start typing in tongues – with some success there I might add.

    [Bill Davis] “You seem to me like the kid who’s afraid to jump off the cliff into the lake even tho the kids who do appear to be having fun – so you just stand on the edge, or stop on the hike up to swim a little – but when the other kids go gleefully up to the ledge – you just sit below and tell everyone why they’re so STUPID to do that. “

    also you got my spatial positioning wrong there, shouldn’t be sitting below, I’d be snootily up on the cliff edge.

    [Bill Davis] “It’s actually FUN to edit with. It’s FUN to explore. It’s FUN to experience the quality and ease and responsiveness.

    You appear to be in a sad place where you’ll NEVER experience that.

    mm. it almost sounds like I’m missing out on a really good revelatory sexual experience there. although you are usually more messianic in your descriptions of engaging with the FCPX godhead, so it makes a change.

    [Bill Davis]
    You don’t actually understand X very well – do you Aindreas? I suspect you’ve dinked with it just enough to appear to have a reasoned opinion, but don’t have anywhere near the depth of understanding to realize just how deeply foolish your arguments here are.

    mm. not fair really at this stage – valid argument for say the first year, but I have gotten quite a bit more into the weeds with FCPX the last six months or so. Some of my critiques have been respectably specific regarding ranges, A/B editing and the keyframing apparatus.

    Now – you’re off the leash again Bill, let mighty FCPX course through your veins as you rattle off another four thousand word reply from the mount….

    https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

  • Chris Harlan

    November 28, 2012 at 8:11 pm

    [Franz Bieberkopf] “[tony west] “I call it patching because fcp calls it a patch panel that you are clicking on. I don’t see that as broadening the meaning.”

    Tony,

    Yes, that’s what I thought you meant.

    I don’t touch that panel.

    Maybe “never in ten years” is a slight exaggeration, but pretty close to never.

    Franz.

    So that you don’t think you are going crazy, let me say that I agree with you. I do that kind of patching in Avid all the time, but almost never in FCP. In FCP, I drag a clip onto a track, and the act of dragging it, “patches” it. So, putting it into the timeline “patches” it, but its part of the physical action of the drag. I find I almost never use the insert edit tools in FCP, but rather drag and cut, paste, and insert/paste. I tend to work one hand keyboard/one hand mouse in FCP, which has become over the years my preferred approach.

  • Steve Connor

    November 28, 2012 at 8:13 pm

    [Aindreas Gallagher] “Now – you’re off the leash again Bill, let mighty FCPX course through your veins as you rattle off another four thousand word reply from the mount….

    Pot, Kettle etc

    Steve Connor
    ‘It’s just my opinion, with an occasional fact thrown in for good measure”

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    November 28, 2012 at 8:16 pm

    eh? I may have written a paragraph or two, sixty to seventy words. tops. mm.

    https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

  • Franz Bieberkopf

    November 28, 2012 at 8:17 pm

    [Steve Connor] “Pot, Kettle etc”

    Steve,

    Haven’t we already had the “This forum needs a new name” post for this month?

    Franz.

  • Steve Connor

    November 28, 2012 at 8:19 pm

    [Chris Harlan] “So that you don’t think you are going crazy, let me say that I agree with you. I do that kind of patching in Avid all the time, but almost never in FCP. In FCP, I drag a clip onto a track, and the act of dragging it, “patches” it”

    Having looked back at Franz’s shots of his timeline, I now understand how he doesn’t use the patching very often, by keeping the B-roll well separated from any narrative, so the auto patching doesn’t encroach.

    Steve Connor
    ‘It’s just my opinion, with an occasional fact thrown in for good measure”

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    November 28, 2012 at 8:23 pm

    god no – thats it. forum title:

    FCPX or not: Pot, please meet Kettle.

    https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

  • Charlie Austin

    November 28, 2012 at 8:25 pm

    [Franz Bieberkopf] “Haven’t we already had the “This forum needs a new name” post for this month?”

    Perhaps we should change the name of this thread to:

    “The NLE that keeps moving clips in the timeline by itself”.

    That would work for me. 😉

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    ~”It is a poor craftsman who blames his tools.”~

  • Franz Bieberkopf

    November 28, 2012 at 8:26 pm

    [Steve Connor] “I now understand how he doesn’t use the patching very often, by keeping the B-roll well separated from any narrative, so the auto patching doesn’t encroach.”

    Steve,

    If you by “B-roll” you mean “non-sync” and by “narrative” you mean “sync” then I think I understand you, and yes the auto-patching is largely accommodated by timeline organization. Note though that mostly I’m working with clips that are already in the timeline in question, and so strictly speaking there’s no patching, unless we broaden the term to include the moving of clips on tracks.

    Franz.

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