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The new Reality Distortion Field.
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…and i’m saying this as the earliest of early adopters (128 beige original Mac) and one of Apple’s biggest fans for years through FCP 7…..and suddenly, giant steps backward….removing features “for your own good”
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[Tom Sefton] “I, and everyone I know that shoots pro video typically needs usb 3, thunderbolt 2, headphone out/in, 10Ge and sd/flash card readers on a weekly basis. “
Tom, the issue with this view is that 15 years ago, that list for me was COMPLETELY different.
I needed SCSI, Parallel ports, XLR, Maybe the emerging Firewire 400. Nearly all of those are obsolete now.NONE of those lasted, (except perhaps XLR, tho it’s under great stress as audio is increasingly embedded into SDI signals and transported that way.
I know Apple tends to move to standards faster than a LOT of the market prefers – but it hasn’t slowed down adoption of their vision at all.
My next laptop transition, I too will lose my headphone jack. But oddly, I lost it on my phone two generations ago – and it hasn’t stopped me from monitoring and working with audio feeds from my phone at all. I can use the supplied lightening to 3.5mm adaptor OR use Bluetooth – and when I need to work with audio from my phone via something other than the internal speaker – it’s not an issue at all. That’s simply how I see ALL these i/0 challenges. We fight it because it’s “abnormal” to us – then our idea of “normal” adapts.
Just how progress happens.
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[greg janza] “the endless adapters and add-on units required just to use industry standard features that Apple has deemed no longer necessary. Yep, that’s quite a positive.
“Meh,
They are bridges from the old to the new.. Only people going somewhere need bridges.
You buy into the travel, or you don’t.
Everyone’s free to choose.
Good luck with yours.
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[Shane Ross] “Apple USED to have several tiers of products. The laptops for consumers, then the ones for professionals. Now they have them ALL for consumers, but put PRO on some so they can charge more and consumers can go “look, I have a professonal laptop!” While they don’t really, as they don’t have ANY of the connectors they need for all the pro work. Well, besides Thunderbolt. “
Wow, just remembering how recently EVERYONE who used a laptop for video production was a wannabe.
Totally Unprofessional. A joke.
Look, I’m seriously sorry sorry that when I articulate how I see these things — it annoys you so much, but looking back – that’s been kind of a consistent thing.
IMO, It’s just about looking at disruption and change and deciding how you want to approach it.
And we’re clearly each wired differently in that area. I see things that have greatly ADVANCED my work in the changes Apple has made. For me the glass is WAY more than half full.
You apparently find constant reason to be upset about those same changes. Basically, the Apple glass is EVER below what you’re going to be comfortable with.
Well, so be it.
We see the same things through a different lens. You apparently enjoy the view through yours – I enjoy the view through mine.
Such is life.
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[Bill Davis] “NONE of those lasted, (except perhaps XLR, tho it’s under great stress as audio is increasingly embedded into SDI signals and transported that way.”
I think it depends on what you’re talking about. Digital audio over SDI may be more common for video transport than it was years ago… but the same isn’t true for most audio only devices and applications. I wouldn’t be surprised if XLR was still the dominant interconnect for audio 100 years from now.
Shawn
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[Shawn Miller] “I wouldn’t be surprised if XLR was still the dominant interconnect for audio 100 years from now.”
Then we’re betting differently.
AS I write this, I have at least a dozen 25, 50, and 100 foot XLR cables up for sale. Along with matching BNC terminated video cables.
At the last gig I participated in, driven by BlackMagic technology, Cat 5 cables displaced quite a few of them.
(tho in fairness, not all – many of the audio runs from mics to the board were still XLR. But from the Mixer to the actual recording devices – ALL were either Embedded signals on Cat 5 – or imported via memory card.
XLR was basically FOH for the audience mix only. Everything else was embedded digital.
And so it goes.
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[Bill Davis] “[Shawn Miller] “I wouldn’t be surprised if XLR was still the dominant interconnect for audio 100 years from now.”
Then we’re betting differently.
AS I write this, I have at least a dozen 25, 50, and 100 foot XLR cables up for sale. Along with matching BNC terminated video cables.
At the last gig I participated in, driven by BlackMagic technology, Cat 5 cables displaced quite a few of them.
(tho in fairness, not all – many of the audio runs from mics to the board were still XLR. But from the Mixer to the actual recording devices – ALL were either Embedded signals on Cat 5 – or imported via memory card.”
Right… as I said, audio only devices mostly use XLR interconnects, so I don’t see them becoming obsolete anytime soon.
Shawn
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[Bill Davis] “Wow, just remembering how recently EVERYONE who used a laptop for video production was a wannabe.
Totally Unprofessional. A joke. “
Yeah, funny how when I used one on the set of a feature film, because the scene was too long and we needed to make adjustments, so the writer director re-wrote the script and the producers freaked out that the edit wouldn’t match, but then I had my laptop on set and fixed the edit and we were good to go… 14 years ago. Not sure when a laptop was said to be unprofessional. The editor of UP was using it on an airplane and the person next to them wasn’t impressed, but that was a commoner. Laptops have been used by professionals for years…so you must be talking about that 14 years ago when the producers didn’t think I could do it. that’s a long time ago…
[Bill Davis] “You apparently find constant reason to be upset about those same changes. Basically, the Apple glass is EVER below what you’re going to be comfortable with. “
When every advance is done for NO OTHER REASON other than “it’s different,” when you have lots of money invested in equipment and in 6 months Apple computers no longer connect to that equipment, meaning you need to hold onto that computer for 4 years longer than you were planning to…just because Apple doesn’t think the average user doesn’t need it anymore. “Oh, you just invested $12,000 in TB2 RAIDs and IO? Well…GOOD NEWS! We don’t support that anymore! Now there’s TB3!! Oh, and that headphone jack, we don’t need that anymore, so you can dump your $400 studio headphones and get our BEATS BY DRE! wireless ones!”
All changes only address the average user. Time and time again they prove they don’t give one hoot about professionals and their needs. Only “make it thinner! Make it lighter! We don’t need that connection anymore…Bob from down the office doesn’t need that. Nor does your average soccer mom, or young blogger. So let’s get rid of it, it’s useless. Then we can make it sleeker.”
I’m so glad you enjoy spending money over and over again for new equipment when the old works just fine, but happens to be two years old so ANCIENT in tech terms. SO nice to be able to afford $8000 for a new RAID every two years because the connector is better, and the adapter doesn’t quite get the speeds that the direct connction did. Or that the $1500 IO you have that is in fine working order won’t work anymore, so you can shell out another $1500 for a new one. This after spending $6000 on the new computer.
I’m not talking about how there’s a guy at Technicolor who still runs a D1 deck to online SD shows…in 2018. No, we are talking things being dropped after two years…or less. Or conections vanishing altogether thus requiring adapters, but wow, not enough connections to accommodate all the things I need to attach.
Glad to see you love giving these companies all your money and all your obsolete equipment stacking up…
Shane
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[Bill Davis] “Meh,”
You probably have stock in Belkin.
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[Shawn Miller] “Right… as I said, audio only devices mostly use XLR interconnects, so I don’t see them becoming obsolete anytime soon. “
The only counter point I would make is that there are plenty of Professional devices (Red cameras, et al) that have dumped XLR auto interfaces for smaller variations of Mini-XLR, TA5F or even 3.5mm.
Of course, nobody really howls about them when they eschew the old XLR standard in favor of something smaller, less common and typically way more costly.
Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
The shortest path to FCP X mastery.
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