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The Mac Pro future. Finally some sense from Apple!
Robin S. kurz replied 9 years, 1 month ago 14 Members · 26 Replies
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Herb Sevush
April 4, 2017 at 1:04 pm[Tim Wilson] “These things are built to last now”
A KayPro was built like a tank, it too could have lasted years and years, but Moore’s “law” was in effect with a vengeance back then. It has since been repealed. What hasn’t changed since 2009 – CPU speed. With a cheese grater you could update everything else, which is why they still can compete with a nMpro. The main reason to get anything new today is i/o – Thunderbolt 3/USB-c. If I could incorporate that into my 2010 I never would have bought my 2013.
Computers don’t change today for 2 reasons – technological plateau and the move to smart phones. And come to think of it the former is probably a result of the latter. The research goes where the money is and the money has moved from your desk to your pocket.
Herb Sevush
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Herb Sevush
April 4, 2017 at 1:11 pm[Oliver Peters] “With the exception of HP and Dell workstations, I can’t say the same for most of the options on the PC side.”
I keep all my personal stuff running on a seven year old pc laptop and I’m writing this on a 3 year old Dell in my office that shows no signs of slowing down. I have only ever had 2 computers die on me and one was a Mac. On the PC side there is greater choice, and if you’re pinching pennies you might get in trouble, but all computer parts are commodities today, including Apple’s, and I can get a high school kid to build me a PC that will last as long as any Mac I’ve ever owned if I spec out the right parts.
Herb Sevush
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Oliver Peters
April 4, 2017 at 1:36 pm[Herb Sevush] “I have only ever had 2 computers die on me and one was a Mac. On the PC side there is greater choice, and if you’re pinching pennies you might get in trouble, but all computer parts are commodities today, including Apple’s”
That’s good, but I haven’t been so lucky. Of the PC laptops I’ve personally owned, I had a Compaq go out of service due to a cracked shell (the area around the lid hinges just started to crack from stress). It was replaced under warranty and the same thing happened within the first year on the new unit. I replaced that with an HP, which served me fine for a few years and I handed it down to my daughter. Then the power supply almost caught on fire. I’ve had Mac laptop issues, too, but those generally were a logic board or some component, not something I would attribute to poor design or build quality.
I’m not trying to disparage any particular brand or manufacturer. To some extent, it’s the luck of the draw. I’ve worked with plenty of PCs and owned several others and they’ve all been fine. However, I have yet to see a PC with the build quality of anything Apple is doing. The good ones, like HP, are solid builds, but have a real industrial-grade level of finish. Not bad, but still a cut below, if that matters. Compare an iMac to a Z1. The Z1 is a great product but it’s a “truck” ☺ From that standpoint, I agree with Andy about the Surface Studio. It has real potential and certainly has a much better build quality than is common in the PC world.
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Robin S. kurz
April 4, 2017 at 2:07 pmIs it me, or is this not (more or less) the exact same “pun” they brought something around 2003? Guess they’re running out of stuff.
And double ironic considering the REAL news and various comments above. ????
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Walter Soyka
April 4, 2017 at 2:50 pm[Oliver Peters] “The good ones, like HP, are solid builds, but have a real industrial-grade level of finish. Not bad, but still a cut below, if that matters.”
Or a cut above, if you’re looking for an industrial-strength solution. I don’t know about the Z1, but I find the toolless chassis design of the Z6x0/Z8x0 series to be a really nice feature.
Walter Soyka
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Oliver Peters
April 4, 2017 at 4:05 pm[Chris Harlan] “Do you mean the not this year real news?”
Regardless of the new machine to come, the upgrades on the current models make this year the best to buy that design.
– Oliver
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Chris Harlan
April 4, 2017 at 4:09 pmAgreed. But they’re not actually upgrades, right? They’re price cuts. Or did I miss something?
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Andrew Kimery
April 4, 2017 at 4:18 pm[Oliver Peters] “Regardless of the new machine to come, the upgrades on the current models make this year the best to buy that design.”
I think the best year to buy a nMP was in 2013. ????
[Chris Harlan] “Agreed. But they’re not actually upgrades, right? They’re price cuts. Or did I miss something?”
Yes, price cuts. No new tech in them.
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Oliver Peters
April 4, 2017 at 4:23 pm[Chris Harlan] “Agreed. But they’re not actually upgrades, right? They’re price cuts. Or did I miss something?”
The base models each get a bump up in GPU and CPU options for the same bucks. So yes, a price cut.
– Oliver
Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
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